Topic: Tranny Leak !!!
in Forum: C3 Driveline Components


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The 400 has an issue with the o-ring that seals the outer diameter of the pump shrinking with age. If it sits for extended periods, the fluid will drain back out of the torque converter, raising the fluid level in the pan. The level will get high enough to be above where the o-ring seals the pump, and, with a shrunken o-ring, it will not seal, and fluid seeps out. It can run down the pan rails, appearing to leak from the pan. The only cure is to remove the trans, and replace the o-ring, and pump gasket.
It's also possible the trans pan is not flat where the gasket sits. Other leak areas include the shifter shaft seal, electrical connector, governor cover, modulator, and cooler lines.
I would suggest cleaning/drying the trans off well, driving a few miles, then check to see if you can determine where the fluid is leaking.
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I had the same issue with my 73 TH400. If the car sat for more then a week the oil would leak out of the pan gasket. After many attempts at replacing the gaskets and seals I discovered the casting had lots of porosity in the pan seal flange. I finally fixed the problem by replacing the trans with the 200-4R OD.
Hope you get yours fixed soon.
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73 coupe L48, Flat-top pistons, Performer RPM Heads, Crane Cam and roller rockers, Holley 650 vac sec. Performer intake,
3.55 gear BTO 200-4R trans,
Leather seats, Seatbelt Plus 3point seatbelts, Pioneer CD player
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That's where mine was leaking from. If you change the o ring, inspect the speedo gear. The little o ring is spring loaded, and if it's failed, the metal spring may have grooved the gear shaft. If it's grooved up, replace it (it's cheap). Be careful you don't drop the gear in the transmission when it's going back together, very easy to do!

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The 400 has an issue with the o-ring that seals the outer diameter of the pump shrinking with age. If it sits for extended periods, the fluid will drain back out of the torque converter, raising the fluid level in the pan. The level will get high enough to be above where the o-ring seals the pump, and, with a shrunken o-ring, it will not seal, and fluid seeps out. It can run down the pan rails, appearing to leak from the pan. The only cure is to remove the trans, and replace the o-ring, and pump gasket.
It's also possible the trans pan is not flat where the gasket sits. Other leak areas include the shifter shaft seal, electrical connector, governor cover, modulator, and cooler lines.
I would suggest cleaning/drying the trans off well, driving a few miles, then check to see if you can determine where the fluid is leaking.
It never ends with cars like mine that sat idle for five years. :) Mine has leaks from o ring seals, and just about every location mentioned except the pan. No leaks there. When the tyranny is dropped I could go ahead and have it rebuilt. Is that a good idea? If so, any suggestions? The tranny shifts smoothly but probably is completely original. Clunks when first put in gear but nothing more. My mechanic put trans x in it to seal the leaks. (Didn't work). Does that change anything?


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2:My mechanic put trans x in it to seal the leaks. (Didn't work). Does that change anything?
You answered yer own first question with the 2nd statement..."My mechanic put trans x in it to seal the leaks"....
You really have no choice, now, but to have it rebuilt.
Putting something in a trans to stop it from leaking(other than new seals) is just silly, imho(NO disrespect to anyone who has, or will continue to do it). You might get the leak to slow down for a while, but it ain't gunna FIX it. That stuff works on the principal of swelling the rubber parts/seals, in hopes that the swelling will make a tighter seal. All that stuff really does is soften/swell the rubber parts....but then there's nothing to keep the seals from continuing to swell....right up until the point where they just fall apart....now you have a really BIG leak.

I can tell when a trans has had some kind of seal swelling compound poured into it...I can smell it, for one, but it's the rubber stuff that is now 50 times larger than it should be that tells the tale. O-rings simply fall off of the components....they are now better suited for use as rubber bands than seals.
Ya need a more practical reason for never using that stuff? Well....you'll never be able to correct what should have been a MINOR repair after putting that stuff in the trans....the trans will ALWAYS have to be completely disassembled and rebuilt if it has some sort of miracle stop leak juice in it...
Otay...rant over....sorry......


Joel Adams
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