Topic: pwr window switch not working?
in Forum: C3 Electrical, Body and Interior
Already a Member?
Click Here to Login
Not yet a Member?
Click Here to Register for Free!
Standard Member
Send PM
Joined: 12/3/2007
Posts: 292
Vette(s): 1978 Corvette Light Blue
Pulled from the swamps of Miami!
Its a driver and back on the road!
I replaced the heater core and it seems so long ago and now more problems.
After getting the dash back on and working on the center console, after putting the electric switches for the windows back in the driver side would not work. I swapped switches and both work.I am getting electric to the switch. So with a lot of anger I removed the left door panel to check the power at the actuator..This leads to my question?
I have a blue and a tan wire and it comes straight from the pwr window switch so how am I to check for the proper results. What I did was put the pos on the blue lead and then grounded the black meter and then toggled the switch and got 12 volts. How do I check the brown wire got no voltage out of this???
The acutator worked before I did the dash project but maybe a slight noise out of it but no window up or down???
SPONSOR AD:: (Our Sponsors help support C3VR)

Lemon Grove, CA - USA
Joined: 10/17/2007
Posts: 2041
Vette(s): 1982 C3 Collectors Edition 44000 miles, sat in the sun most of its life, My wife purchased it for me for Father's Day in 2007 from her girlfriend that had it for 19 years. It is on the road again. I'm retired but it is now my daily driver.
I had that same thing happen to me. I got voltage to the motor and everything.
It turned out (as best as I can figure out) to be a ground issue. I got voltage but it would not hold under load because of the increased resistance caused by a bad ground.
Anyway I cleaned the ground between the motor and the bolt holding it to the door and it has worked fine for over a year now.
Just cause you can measure voltage does not mean that it is there under load.
Just my thoughts on it.
|UPDATED|9/4/2012 12:27:50 AM (AZT)|/UPDATED|
It turned out (as best as I can figure out) to be a ground issue. I got voltage but it would not hold under load because of the increased resistance caused by a bad ground.
Anyway I cleaned the ground between the motor and the bolt holding it to the door and it has worked fine for over a year now.
Just cause you can measure voltage does not mean that it is there under load.
Just my thoughts on it.
|UPDATED|9/4/2012 12:27:50 AM (AZT)|/UPDATED|
I had the similar thing happen to me yesterday. I got through working on the center console and my passenger side window would not go up or down. I checked for voltage at the switch, which I had. Flip flopped the switches around, no changes. But the driver side window which has the original motor worked slow but worked.
So I figured I'll tackle that problem later. But after letting the car run for awhile to bring the battery back up, I tried the window again and it worked. So I think there might not have been quite enough juice to make the motor operate. Kinda weird because I replaced that passenger side window a few years ago and never had an issue.
So I figured I'll tackle that problem later. But after letting the car run for awhile to bring the battery back up, I tried the window again and it worked. So I think there might not have been quite enough juice to make the motor operate. Kinda weird because I replaced that passenger side window a few years ago and never had an issue.
These are some of the reasons I became a Mechanical Engineer and not an Electrical Engineer!
Dave
Lifetime Member #116
Dave's '82
Standard Member
Send PM
Joined: 12/3/2007
Posts: 292
Vette(s): 1978 Corvette Light Blue
Pulled from the swamps of Miami!
Its a driver and back on the road!
I looked at the book and the car do not see the ground from the motor to a bolt, just the two elec wires?
I took a jumper from the right working door to the contacts on the left motor and still no up/down, maybe a click or two but nothing?
Yes will still check the ground if I can locate it but have a feeling its the motor. Only two wires from the switch and power at the end of the wires so unless some type of short its not working and had prior to dash removal. I could see if I had cut the wire or pinched it, most if it is under black tape from previous owner. i guess if I hook up a new motor or try to jump the right working motor to the left wires maybe that will tell me, forgot to do it that way.
Anyway if you could shead some light ont the bolt and ground wire.
Thanks BB78
It was running well before the heater core and ow its one issue after another...oh well.

Lemon Grove, CA - USA
Joined: 10/17/2007
Posts: 2041
Vette(s): 1982 C3 Collectors Edition 44000 miles, sat in the sun most of its life, My wife purchased it for me for Father's Day in 2007 from her girlfriend that had it for 19 years. It is on the road again. I'm retired but it is now my daily driver.
One of the first set of test leads I made was from a 15amp extension cord. I cut off both ends of a 15 foot cord ant put on clips. Now I can take 12 volt any where I want. I was told that the motors are really strong and seldom go bad. If they do you are better off purchasing a used one than the new ones.
That said I put 12volts directly to the motor and it worked for me. Now I knew for sure it was something between the motor and the battery.
There is no ground except the motor housing as far as I can remember. It was the motor not making good connection with the mound that was my issue.
That said I put 12volts directly to the motor and it worked for me. Now I knew for sure it was something between the motor and the battery.
There is no ground except the motor housing as far as I can remember. It was the motor not making good connection with the mound that was my issue.
Standard Member
Send PM
Joined: 12/3/2007
Posts: 292
Vette(s): 1978 Corvette Light Blue
Pulled from the swamps of Miami!
Its a driver and back on the road!
I have a brand new battery but will take the leads directly to the motor and also check the mounting bolts and nuts, figure it's something simple or I pinched a wire in removing the dash, as it had worked fine. Will try when the next free time comes up. Thanks again. BB78
Left window at motor
Brown 12v Down
Dark Blue 12v up
Right window at motor
Light Blue 12v Down
Tan 12v Up
The motor case through mount bolts are the ground.
If it turned out to be a switch if your carefull they can be taken apart and cleaned
Hope this helps let me know I can post a diagram or email it to you

Moderator
Duncanville, TX - USA
Joined: 11/8/2003
Posts: 20225
Vette(s): #1-1974 L-48 4spd Cp Med Red Metallic/Black deluxe int w/AC/tilt/tele./p/w-p/b/
Am-Fm/map light National/Regional/Chapter NCRS "Top Flight"
#2-1985 Bright Red/Carmine Cp.L-98/auto
Member: NCRS, NCRS Texas, Corvette Legends of Texas
Be careful running hot wires o the window motors....you do NOT want to shoot 12v and a ground to the two terminals on the motor. You only need 12v on ONE of the terminals at a time...one to power it up, and the other terminal powers it down. The motor is grounded to the window frame itself thru the casing, as has been mentioned.
So, basically, putting 12v to one of the terminals on the motor runs the motor in one direction, and 12v on the other terminal runs it in the opposite direction. If you run 12v to one terminal, and ground the other terminal, you may let some of the smoke out....
Try tapping on the motor with a small hammer while shooting voltage to it....you wouldn't believe how many times that gets them running again.
So, basically, putting 12v to one of the terminals on the motor runs the motor in one direction, and 12v on the other terminal runs it in the opposite direction. If you run 12v to one terminal, and ground the other terminal, you may let some of the smoke out....
Try tapping on the motor with a small hammer while shooting voltage to it....you wouldn't believe how many times that gets them running again.
Joel Adams
C3VR Lifetime Member #56
My Link
(click for Texas-sized view!) NCRS
"Money can't buy happiness -- but somehow it's more comforting to cry in a CORVETTE than in a Kia"
Former Member
Send PM
Ormond Beach, FL - USA
Joined: 7/28/2012
Posts: 19
Vette(s): 77 coupe, yellow, auto, L series, A/C, T top, Grey leather interior. It is about 75% & matching #'s. The miles are 117K & intend on restoring bit by bit to enjoy Cruises & rallies in Florida , & maybe some shows ?
Have had the same issues. Put in a new motor, had power up & down w/test light, but no motion. Like rraider said, the TWO wires that feed both sides, change motor direction only, so window goes up & down. The ground is through the motor housing, to the door frame, to body. Any loss of voltage under load because of a not so good ground, will cause the motor to work slowly or not at all. I also found a faulty power window switch connector. It seems that the red power feed into these switches get a loose connection sometimes that you can't see. So after wiggling the wires, while activating the switch up & down, the window took off just like new again. If you have this issue, you can buy new connectors & splice them in for cheap money @ most corvette parts suppliers, mamotorworks, ecklers, corvette america, etc.
Enjoy the ride.
in Forum: C3 Electrical, Body and Interior
SPONSOR AD: (Our Sponsors help support C3VR)