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1982 cruise control

Posted: 1/29/13 3:22pm Message 1 of 19
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I've been working the cruise control issue on my  '82 with no success over the last 5 years. On the 82 wiring schematic I found a "vehicle speed sensor' that looks to be hidden behind the speedometer if you were to pull the instrument rack. I found only a partial part number for this sensor with the rest of the diagram faded and I think it starts the 8 digit part number with either 1200 or 1201. The wiring to/from this sensor shows it to be combination of a .5 pink/black wire, a .5 black/white wire, and finally a .8 brown wire. Has anyone with an '82 seen this sensor before, and knows its location?? I may have a junk yard in SC, with an '82 being parted out, and the guy thinks he know of this part to save out for me. Please get back to me ASAP so I can order this part from this guy!! Does it look anything like the enclosed photos? Thanx!!

 
 
 
 
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Re: 1982 cruise control

Posted: 1/28/13 10:44am Message 2 of 19
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The speed sensor is tied into the computer, if you have a bad speed sensor you would have other problems as well. I'm not familiar with the cruise control since my '82 does not have it.
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Re: 1982 cruise control

Posted: 2/8/13 11:25am Message 3 of 19
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I'm not 100% sure, but if your cruize control has the transducer mounted on the driver side fenderwell, your VSS signal should come from that.I'm not seeing anything in any of the diagrams I have that would indicate a separate VSS sensor on the cluster itself. I do have the Factory Service manual at home for the '82, so I can check it later this evening, and see if I can see what you are seeing....

And...to answer the actual question, NO, none of the sensors you pictured as for your vehicle...those are all Ford sensors, that go into the trans.




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Re: 1982 cruise control

Posted: 1/28/13 5:59pm Message 4 of 19
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The transducer is the speed sensor. It is driven by the speedo cable and converts the rotation of the cable into an electrical value that is proportional to the speed. The transducer then regulates vacuum to the servo. I don't know what kind of problem you are having, but have replaced alot of transducers in my day. Make sure your vacuum lines are good to the transducer and the servo holds vacuum.

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Posted: 1/28/13 11:38pm Message 5 of 19
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if their was a vss it would most likely be like this attached to speedometer


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Posted: 1/29/13 10:39am Message 6 of 19
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Bob....what is that speedo out of, do you know?


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Re: 1982 cruise control

Posted: 1/29/13 5:55pm Message 7 of 19
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I am not sure I know this question came upm before and I found this. I will look back through my stuff to see if I can figure it out



Re: 1982 cruise control

Posted: 1/29/13 6:37pm Message 8 of 19
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their is this buliten I am not sure whether speedo was corvette or cammaro
 
1981: Service Bulletin: Vehicle Speed Sensor Servicing

Subject: Vehicle Speed Sensor Servicing
Model and Year: 1981 Corvettes
Source: Chevrolet Dealer Service Information Bulletin
Bulletin Number: 81-I-17
Section: VIt
Date: January, 1981

TO: ALL CHEVROLET DEALERS

Beginning with the 1980 1/2 model year pull-ahead program, the speedometers of the car lines listed in the chart below [Corvette included - CAC Staff] will be equipped with an optical vehicle speed sensor (VSS). The VSS will furnish data to the ECM for activating the torque converter clutch and for influencing the Computer Command Control idle speed control system.

To diagnose and service this VSS speedometer system, code 24 of the Computer Command Control should be performed as follows:

  1. With ignition on, engine off, probe pin #16 of the ECM with a voltmeter. Raise one wheel and rotate to observe for varying voltage.
  2. If no variation is observed, the connection between the IP harness and VSS buffer amplifier must be disconnected. Then pin to pin voltage checks can be made of the IP harness connector to determine any problems with the IP harness.
  3. If OK, check VSS connector.
  4. If OK, replace VSS assembly.
  5. If condition persists, the speedometer must be returned to an AC-Delco account authorized to repair speedometers equipped with VSS. To insure proper speedometer repair specify in the "nature of Problem" area on AC-Delco warranty claim form ACD-1078 "Code 24 VSS Problem."



Re: 1982 cruise control

Posted: 1/29/13 6:46pm Message 9 of 19
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If you do a search on site for vss theinfo is their, I think I got the picture off of ebay just to show how the sensor hooks to speedo


Re: 1982 cruise control

Posted: 1/29/13 8:41pm Message 10 of 19
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Service Bulletin said: 
 
1981: Service Bulletin: Vehicle Speed Sensor Servicing

Subject: Vehicle Speed Sensor Servicing
Model and Year: 1981 Corvettes
Source: Chevrolet Dealer Service Information Bulletin
Bulletin Number: 81-I-17
Section: VIt
Date: January, 1981

TO: ALL CHEVROLET DEALERS

Beginning with the 1980 1/2 model year pull-ahead program, the speedometers of the car lines listed in the chart below [Corvette included - CAC Staff] will be equipped with an optical vehicle speed sensor (VSS). The VSS will furnish data to the ECM for activating the torque converter clutch and for influencing the Computer Command Control idle speed control system.



From what I read, this particular sensor is NOT part of the cruise control system...it is only an input to the ECM for the TCC and idle speed. It is apparently just a "piggyback" running off of the actual speedo cable coming from the cruise transducer. At least, that's how I read it. I need to get the Service manual and check it out....Thanks Bob! Thumbs Up



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