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82 CE vehicle speed sensor

Posted: 2/19/25 8:51am Message 1 of 13
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in old post about an 82 ce vss the pictures that showed how it is installed no longer are available. trying to help a friend he was changing headlight sw and discovered a meta connector with 3 wires BRN BLK/WHT PINK/BLACK found it is for the vehicle speed sensor. but nothing plug into it. 1 do all 82 use it 2 does anyone have pictures how it installs to the back of speedo

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Re: 82 CE vehicle speed sensor

Posted: 2/21/25 5:40pm Message 2 of 13
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I have no idea but I would recommend checking the AIM for detail.  A wealth of info in those manuals.




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Re: 82 CE vehicle speed sensor

Posted: 2/22/25 12:08am Message 3 of 13
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Thanks I have a 77 but that 82 from what it looks like pretty close to one of a kind 




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Posted: 2/22/25 9:43am Message 4 of 13
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"BLUBYU" - '04 Coupe

The four speed automatic was new for '82 so some things could be different.  If the car has cruise control does it work?  The VSS would be needed for the cruise control.  Guessing the general wiring harness is the same for all cars (please correct me if I'm wrong) so if the car does not have cruise control that plug is most likely an orphan.  According to the Corvette Black Book just under 1,100 cars were built without cruise.



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Re: 82 CE vehicle speed sensor

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I have the factory service manual for the '82. I have been scouring it, but there is NOTHING on any "speed sensor" attached to the speedo head. Cruise control speed signal comes directly from the speedo on the transmission. The speedometer is cable driven, with a cable from the trans up to the cruise control transducer(under the brake booster), then a cable from the transducer up to the speedometer in the dash. No other sensors are called out. 

Does the connector you see appear to be factory, or could it possibly be aftermarket?




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Re: 82 CE vehicle speed sensor

Posted: 2/22/25 7:09pm Message 6 of 13
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Here is the picture of connector I just searched the wire diagram for the 3 wire combo of Brn Blk/wht  pink/blk 




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Posted: 2/22/25 9:47pm Message 7 of 13
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My old eyeholes are havin a hard time seein that pic clearly, but....that appears to be an interior light fixture. I'll check the diagrams again to verify the wire colors just to be sure, but I don't see that connection having anything to do with the gauge cluster. I think it attaches to the lower edge of the dash for interior lighting.....




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Looks like a courtesy lamp fixture to me also.




   

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Posted: 2/23/25 10:16am Message 9 of 13
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that's what i thought at first when he sent me the picture its not clear what that socket looks like. but it has  three wires going to it brn blk/wht pink/black. the only thing i found looking at the wire diagram was a three wire connector that said speed sensor and went down a rabbit hole mystery. if you have the same wire diagram it is on engine compartment next to fuel pump relay. that's when i started searching for info about a speed sensor for and 82. the courtesy lts would only be 2 with 1 color org. he does not have cruise control




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Posted: 2/23/25 11:59am Message 10 of 13
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Assuming that the connector in question is the same connector on the wiring diagrams listed as "speed sensor"(FSM shows it to be "vehicle speed sensor"), the tracing the wires by color/circuit # gets us: 

Brown-circuit 437- goes to the TBI harness connector, terminal "K"

Blk/wht-circuit 450- goes to TBI harness connector terminal "M"

Pnk/blk- circuit 39 @ sensor connector-turns into circuit 439, 12v power from the ECM fuse. This circuit goes to several other connectors, including terminal "G", circuit 39, at the TBI harness connector.

So...all three of these wires terminate/originate at the TBI harness connector. Is there an "overspeed" protection system in play on the '82 Crossfire? Meaning, would it shut down the injectors if a pre-set speed was achieved? Not a clue....never heard of it, but it's just an idea.

Why would the injection system need a speed input?

Why do the wiring diagrams show a "speed sensor" when the speedo itself is gear driven from the transmission?

If the car had cruise control, the "speed sensor" is internal to the transducer, which is driven by the gear driven cable from the trans. The transducer then has another cable going from it up the speedo head. Without cruise, the cable goes directly from the trans to the speedo head.

A better, clearer pic of this mystery connector would be invaluable. I'm kinda stumped....




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