Topic: 82 Fuel Pump Won't Shut Off???
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Apache Junction, AZ - USA
Joined: 10/15/2006
Posts: 285
Vette(s): 1982,150K,Renegade CFI,Hooker Side Pipes,85 fuel pump,Bilsteins,HD suspension, Aluminum radiator, SharkBar/w 5-Point Restraints. 3:73 gears coming soon.
hello C3VR!
I have a problem... Battery went dead from what I thought was my interior lights staying on but also found that my fuel pump is also running continously even when the key is out; this is draining my battery. When I move the headlight switch dimmer, the interior lights go out but come back on, this switch is 3 months old. Right now I am pulling out the old switch and installing the old one - the problem with it was the dimmer was worn out. Maybe this will be the problem or part of the problem. Seems I have a few going on here at the same time.
I just installed an 85 pump 2 weeks ago, rebuilt and balanced the TB's and replaced the dist. cap - nothing else don't since and no problem since.
We had some good rain in Phoenix just before this started but I've been in the rain before with this vette - It is a daily driver.
Any thoughts from ya'all would help!
Thanks!
Phill
Phill's Vette 2007-02-07 23:15:20
I have a problem... Battery went dead from what I thought was my interior lights staying on but also found that my fuel pump is also running continously even when the key is out; this is draining my battery. When I move the headlight switch dimmer, the interior lights go out but come back on, this switch is 3 months old. Right now I am pulling out the old switch and installing the old one - the problem with it was the dimmer was worn out. Maybe this will be the problem or part of the problem. Seems I have a few going on here at the same time.
I just installed an 85 pump 2 weeks ago, rebuilt and balanced the TB's and replaced the dist. cap - nothing else don't since and no problem since.
We had some good rain in Phoenix just before this started but I've been in the rain before with this vette - It is a daily driver.
Any thoughts from ya'all would help!
Thanks!
Phill
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The fuel pump relay may be stuck on. Try tapping on it with a screwdriver, to see if it turns off. If not, you may need to replace it. The fuel pump should only run for a couple of seconds when you turn the key on, unless the engine is running. I'd bet on the relay being stuck. 

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Joel,
For us lazy dummies, where is the relay located?
And how big of a hammer should be used for the tap?


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If you know where the battery is , it's by the ECM ( electric control module ). You may have to move the battery a bit to get to it. If you tap it and the pump stops running, replace the relay.
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Cramerton, NC - USA
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dwright, glad you asked that question. I had no idea where it was either......Ain't this forum great, what one don't know, someone else has the answer right off.

Apache Junction, AZ - USA
Joined: 10/15/2006
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Vette(s): 1982,150K,Renegade CFI,Hooker Side Pipes,85 fuel pump,Bilsteins,HD suspension, Aluminum radiator, SharkBar/w 5-Point Restraints. 3:73 gears coming soon.
Thanks! Found the relay in my assem. manual. Cannot reach it though and will have to remove the battery and ECM to get to it. I will try tapping on it before I do all this and see if it shuts off. It is probably 25 years old so will replace it regardless.
If the replacement doesn't fix the problem, would I then be looking at an ECM issue??
Oh yeah, the interior lights staying on was a problem with the headlight switch which I fixed. Funny how two things happen at once and seem to be related on these vettes!

Thanks!

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Not likely. Once the ign. is turned off, the ECM should power down. The only other possibility would be a short in the relay wiring...considering the location...that might be a reality. 

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Apache Junction, AZ - USA
Joined: 10/15/2006
Posts: 285
Vette(s): 1982,150K,Renegade CFI,Hooker Side Pipes,85 fuel pump,Bilsteins,HD suspension, Aluminum radiator, SharkBar/w 5-Point Restraints. 3:73 gears coming soon.
Gave the relay a good wack and sure enough - it now shuts off. Sooo glad its not a wiring issue
Got a new replacement anyway - $29 @ Napa.
Anything I need to know before I remove the battery & ECM to replace the relay?
Thanks Joel & Denny!
Phill's Vette 2007-02-07 23:14:58

Got a new replacement anyway - $29 @ Napa.
Anything I need to know before I remove the battery & ECM to replace the relay?
Thanks Joel & Denny!

[QUOTE=Phill's Vette] Gave the relay a good wack and sure enough - it now shuts off. Sooo glad its not a wiring issue
Got a new replacement anyway - $29 @ Napa.
Anything I need to know before I remove the battery & ECM to replace the relay?
Thanks Joel & Denny!
[/QUOTE]

Got a new replacement anyway - $29 @ Napa.
Anything I need to know before I remove the battery & ECM to replace the relay?
Thanks Joel & Denny!

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I'm having the same kind of problem with mine with some twists.... But this thread has helped a bunch... I would love to meet the engineer that put that relay behind that plate though

Phill's Vette, did your melt the positive junction block in the battery box?

Apache Junction, AZ - USA
Joined: 10/15/2006
Posts: 285
Vette(s): 1982,150K,Renegade CFI,Hooker Side Pipes,85 fuel pump,Bilsteins,HD suspension, Aluminum radiator, SharkBar/w 5-Point Restraints. 3:73 gears coming soon.
YES! It did
As for the engineer that placed it there - must have been the same guy that built the car AROUND the damm heater core! OMG what a PITA that was! - like a frame off kind of thing... just to get to it! Caused me major PTCSS - Post Tramatic Covrette Stress Syndrom
Gotta love these cars though!
Phill


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