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I think my battery is toast - one too many full discharges for a multitude of reasons over the last three years or so. I've been thinking I'd go Optima when it finally went, but after reading some online reviews, now I'm not so sure. Many of the reviews said they went belly up right after the 3 year warranty expired. Many others just said the extra cost simply wasn't worth it - might as well get a regular battery. Any experience out there? If I don't go Optima is there any reason to go with one brand over another? I'm partial to Die Hards, but not for any particular reason other than Sears is close to my office. Aren't they all pretty much made by the same one or two manufacturers?
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Optimas are excellent batteries, but I don't believe they're cost effective...at least in my experience.
I've had Optimas in two different C3's and won't be buying them again. The problem seems to be they do die suddenly after a couple of years...though that happens with other brands as well. I'm talking about Optima Red Tops...maybe the Blue Top (deep cycle) design might be better. In little used cars, they don't seem to hold up well to repeated periods of inactivity and drain. If you drive the car regularly or keep a battery tender hooked up when not being driven there seems to be less of a problem.
As I said, maybe the Optima deep cycle designs would work better in such applications.
I still have an Optima Red Top in one car not driven often (not a Vette), and keep a battery tender connected during the winter and other periods it's not driven and that battery has held up well...nearly six years thus far. My other Optimas lasted barely three years each.
There's a limited number of battery manufacturers out there who make the batteries for all the different retailers. They're built to meet several different price points and quality and power can differ widely. Consumer Reports does testing of car batteries and they seem to give high marks to Costco's Kirkland brand, Walmart's Maxx, Interstate Megatron, NAPA Gold. The Sears Die Hard seems to drift and out of favor with them.

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Vette(s): 1982 C3 Collectors Edition 44000 miles, sat in the sun most of its life, My wife purchased it for me for Father's Day in 2007 from her girlfriend that had it for 19 years. It is on the road again. I'm retired but it is now my daily driver.
I had a diesel Cadillac (you can stop laughing now). I was in northern LA started it and the alternator belt snapped. I live in San Diego. Had limited choices as it is 11 PM, 150 miles and close to 3 hours drive to home or to stay the night. I decided to try to get as close to home on the battery as possible. Diesels not needing a battery to run lights are required for night driving I decided that the closer to home I got the quicker someone could come pick me up and if I got within 100 miles AAA could tow me home. Unfortunately for me they were doing night time freeway repair and a little less than a 3 hour trip took a little over 4 hours.
I had an Interstate battery about 2 years old. Short story I drove the car all the way home turned it off in my driveway and then just for a test tried to start the car. It turned it over once but did not start.
I charged that battery up on my home charger drove it until I junked the car 2 years later. Never owned anything but an Interstate Battery after that. At the time I was told they were one of the few that used solid led plates most use led coated plates because of expense. Just a my view.

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Well, being an employee at an Interstate Battery distributorship(franchised), i would not overyly recommend the Optima, not to say it is a bad battery, it really isn't, but in my experience in the last 10 or so years of dealing with them, they don't seem to be all they are 'cracked up' to be. At least not for the cost. As Gunslinger mentioned, they don't always hold up when just left alone for periods of time. Nor would any battery for that matter... unless you take a little time to 'care' for them when they are not in use. Battery tenders are very beneficial in these matters, along with a decent battery charger. If you do plan on leaving your car in storage, i would highly recommend disconnecting the battery, and fully charging it before storing your vehicle(taking it out of the car if possible might not be a bad idea either). Batteries do have a finite shelf life, car batteries, flashlight batteries, etc... automotive batteries do self discharge even if they are not hooked up. We recharge our stock about every 5-6 months... especially in the summer months... heat tends to accellerate the self discharge just a little... A fully charged battery is between 12.6 to 12.8 volts, depending on the acid blend in the battery. Strange as it sounds, if it falls to 12.3 volts, its nearly half discharged(i know, one would think 6 volts, but....not so...) Anyhow, make a long story longer... i can't knock our batteries, Interstate Megatron is a good all around battery, middle of the road type of amperage, which is what you should look for, not one toooo big in amps, nor one tooo small.... mostly ones that are in the 600 to 750 CCA range. They tend to hold up better, in moderate climates.... if you live in the great white north, then you would want a heavier CCA battery, 850 on up, if in the deep deep south, i probably would still stick with the 500-750 CCA range. Reason being is that wet batteries are basically cooled by the acid/water mix. Think of it like a glass of iced water.. the more ice you have the less water you actually have in the glass... same is true for batteries... the heavier(more CCA) battery you have, the more plates in the battery, the less electrolyte there is in the battery to help cool it. However, Optima's don't have this problem, they are AGM (absorbed glass matte), which means instead of liquid in the cells, its basically a sponge inbetween the plates, so it can't leak if cracked... Optima's do have a great purpose, they are highly vibration resistant, so, we do see a lot of them in race cars(dirt track mainly around here), rock crawlers(cause they tend to turn over a lot), and road machinery(lot of vibration)....Unless you just come across a good price on an Optima, i'd just stick with a lead/acid battery. If taken care of, will last just as long, for 1/3 to 1/2 price usually...
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As for manufactures, well basically there are 3 major manufactures.... Johnson Control, Exide, and East Penn(Deka)... most Sears, Costco, Wal-Mart,Auto Zone,Advance and Interstate Batteries are supplied by Johnson Control Industries. Napa, some Wal-Marts etc have Excides... JCI batteries can be identified by there caps on the battery, they are kinda stop sign shaped(six sided rectangular caps) , Exides are 4 sided rectangles, East Penn dont have visible caps, they are flat top batteries, but do have plug caps for each cell. ok.. i've rambled over my yearly limit..
Oh and as for the plates, they are not solid, now-a-days they grids, which allows for more surface area for the plate to be exposed to the electrolyte.
Ok class, i'll expect a 2 page double spaced report on my desk in the morning... class dismissed :) (any questions?)
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Yes, thanks much for the info, everyone. I'm going with a good ol' lead acid - either Interstate or Costco. (I hope the Costco ones aren't anything like their AA's. I'll never buy the mega pack of Kirkland AA's again, they leak over everything).
I've had nothing but the BEST results from Odyssey batteries. Optima.......stinks! Here is a link for more info. I have them in all my cars. Click here...
http://www.odysseybattery.com/ I buy them heavily discounted out from a place in Florida.
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I just want to add a thought.. A new car no matter which era ... You buy it and if you notice batteries , wipers , alt , starter and a lot of other oem parts last for years and years ...
So on parts like that if you want long lasting go oem and avoid aftermarket. And yes bla bla bla all after market meets or exceeds but do they really ?
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Just for my two cents worth....I have used Sears and Walmart Maxx brands. I have found Maxx to be the best. I use Maxx for the Boat and Vette. Both have had long periods of time...charged and not charged. I normally buy a new one when they become out of date! On the water it's cheaper to be safe than to be TOWED. (G) The on in the the 76 is nearly 4 years old and still starting the sitting best...as it goes though it's transformation!
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