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Charred wire to starter

Posted: 8/31/08 4:37pm Message 1 of 13
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Vette(s): black 1982 coupe slate gray interior, 350 crossfire, 1985 fuel pump, Steeroids R&P conversion
While prepaing to install a heat shield on a friends 82 we discovered a charred wire that connects to the starter solenoid.  The wire comes through a split wire loom near the starter where two wires go into a plastic "connector", the insulation on one of these wires is burned off to a point about 2 inches back into the wire loom.  Two wires go into the "connector" but only one comes out and travels to the solenoid.  The "connector" is marked 16 on one end and 45 in the middle.  What is this plastic "connector" and where do I find a replacement for it.  I cant find anything that looks like this at napa or advance auto sites. Any insight on how to replace this thing would be appreciated. 
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Charred wire to starter

Posted: 8/31/08 4:51pm Message 2 of 13
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Never saw one of those before.  Is it a fuseable link?  I assume you have checked out the various parts catalogs.  Paragon would be the one I would check for replacement stuff.

Joel is the wiring guru so he probably can help out the best.



Charred wire to starter

Posted: 8/31/08 5:05pm Message 3 of 13
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Lemon Grove, CA - USA
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Vette(s): 1982 C3 Collectors Edition 44000 miles, sat in the sun most of its life, My wife purchased it for me for Father's Day in 2007 from her girlfriend that had it for 19 years. It is on the road again. I'm retired but it is now my daily driver.
I'm about to go work on my 1982.  I will jack up the car and take a look to see if mine has one on it.  Not that it will tell you a lot except that you are not alone.





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Posted: 8/31/08 6:09pm Message 4 of 13
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Vette(s): 1982 C3 Collectors Edition 44000 miles, sat in the sun most of its life, My wife purchased it for me for Father's Day in 2007 from her girlfriend that had it for 19 years. It is on the road again. I'm retired but it is now my daily driver.
Put my car on jack stands.  Do not have anything like your picture.  My C3 is an absolutely stock 82CE. 

I did find a vacuum hose that was busted.  I hope when I get it fixed it helps with my idle issues. 

Sorry no quick fix. 

 



Charred wire to starter

Posted: 8/31/08 7:02pm Message 5 of 13
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I beleive that is the splice block for the fusable links, on older cars I beleive they were twisted together then soldered and tapped. This should replace what is there, maybe give them a call other venders like our sponser may have something simular




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Posted: 8/31/08 7:30pm Message 6 of 13
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It's strange the harness wire overheated instead of the fused link going.
Yep, that's all it is, a connector for the fused link.
Earlier Vettes had two seperate links instead of one.
Here's one of mine....
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Charred wire to starter

Posted: 8/31/08 7:44pm Message 7 of 13
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That is the fusiable link wires.  It is not burned.  The insulation has pulled away and deteriorated, as is a habit of this type of wire.  No, the parts housed do not have a direct factory appearing replacement.   Nor do you need to replace it, there is no problem except the fact that you have bare power wires.
 
Instead, just reinsulate the wire.  Electrical tape can be used, but is not the best.  If you can find heat shrink tape (yes tape, not tube) you can wrap it with that and heat it to create a great seal.  You can also use a bit of silicone wiped into/on the wire, then use the electrical tape.
 
This is a very common situation.  Not to worry, just insulate.



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Posted: 8/31/08 9:20pm Message 8 of 13
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Vette(s): #1-1974 L-48 4spd Cp Med Red Metallic/Black deluxe int w/AC/tilt/tele./p/w-p/b/ Am-Fm/map light National/Regional/Chapter NCRS "Top Flight" #2-1985 Bright Red/Carmine Cp.L-98/auto Member: NCRS, NCRS Texas, Corvette Legends of Texas
Classic case of dirty oil poisoning...and old age. The wire insulation has simply degraded due to the oil on it...as Ken said, it's fairly common, and as long as the wire itself it in good shape, it's ok to just re-wrap it.


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Charred wire to starter

Posted: 9/1/08 6:31am Message 9 of 13
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Thanks guys.  I did tape it when I found it but wasnt satisfied with that as a permanent fix.  I have seen the heat shrink tape and will get some of that.  Stuff like this is what makes this forum work, all the great guys and gals here willing to share their knowledge. Clap


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Posted: 9/12/08 4:44pm Message 10 of 13
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I don't have that on my '82 either. I've been under there a few times and have nothing like it. I expected to see more stressed wires from heat and oil but have not really seen it too bad. Maybe I'm lucky?
 
What number in production is your '82? I see you have a "Last C3" tag. Mine was pretty early in production, Nov 1981 and is #1300.



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