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electrical system troubleshooting

Posted: 5/19/13 8:37am Message 1 of 29
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STERLING, CO - USA
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Vette(s): My Corvettes are a 1978 L-82 Coupe with an automatic transmission. It has a Silver Anniversary paint scheme with an Oyster interior. I also have a 2003 Electron Blue convertible, Milestone Edition with an LS-1 and a six speed transmission.
Is there a previously written thread on troubleshooting a slow leak in the electrical system? I have to recharge my battery about every 4-5 days. I could sure use some help. Lynn


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Re: electrical system troubleshooting

Posted: 5/19/13 12:02pm Message 2 of 29
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Temple City, CA - USA
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Vette(s): 1969 Daytona Yellow. 350 / Automatic.
One suggestion I got from YAHOO:
Disconnect your battery next time your car sits for a few days, if it starts fine you have a drain, if it's dead you probably need a new battery.

I searched our forums and found nothing but I'm sure something is there.  One the internet I found this site:
http://www.buzzle.com/articles/troubleshooting-car-electrical-problems.html

After that you may want to get a multimeter from Harbor Freight Tools.  Pretty cheap or free sometimes if you hit the right month and buy something else.

Good Luck.  Electrical problems are a bear to find!

Jim



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Posted: 5/19/13 5:00pm Message 3 of 29
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Vette(s): My Corvettes are a 1978 L-82 Coupe with an automatic transmission. It has a Silver Anniversary paint scheme with an Oyster interior. I also have a 2003 Electron Blue convertible, Milestone Edition with an LS-1 and a six speed transmission.
Thank you, Jim:
When it sits for a few days, I have to boost it to get it started. I'll take it out and get it checked. When I disconnect it between using it, it always starts up easily. I appreciate you interest. I also need some help locating and installing heat shielding on the distributor and spark plug wires. I have the distributor cover, but no brackets or other shielding.  The battery issue is the big thing now.

Lynn



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Posted: 5/19/13 7:00pm Message 4 of 29
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Grapevine, TX - USA
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Vette(s): 1972 LT-1 convertible with factory air. 2017 Black Rose Grand Sport convertible.
It's not your battery.  You confirmed that yourself.


   

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Posted: 5/19/13 8:53pm Message 5 of 29
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Lemon Grove, CA - USA
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Vette(s): 1982 C3 Collectors Edition 44000 miles, sat in the sun most of its life, My wife purchased it for me for Father's Day in 2007 from her girlfriend that had it for 19 years. It is on the road again. I'm retired but it is now my daily driver.

Using a meter in the Volt setting:

1. Put a volt meter between the negative battery cable end and the Negative battery terminal (of course with the neg disconnected)

2. If the meter ( 20 volt scale) swings / shows the wrong way or - volts , swap the meter leads. 

3. Next if the meter reads 12 volts , you have a drain , pull fuses till the reading is 0 volts.

4. Radios that have memory of stations and clock draw 1. volt to max1.8 volts

5. If all is still 12 volt with all fuses pulled, the main wires from the Alt would be the last to pull. If you find that the Alt is the Bleed out. You have a leaking Diode.

 

Using a meter in the amp setting:

1. Disconnect the battery positive lead.

2. Connect the digital multimeter between the battery positive lead and the battery positive terminal.

3. Select the multimeter to the ammeter function and turn the meter ON.

4. Check the multimeter reading less than 65mA (.065 A). That's your discharge rate and is normal for most cars with radios.

5. If the discharge rate is greater than 6mA, start removing and then re-installing fuses one at a time. When you remove each fuse, write down how much the discharge rate of the battery decreases.

6. After that, try removing and installing relays one at a time and write down how much the discharge rate drops for each relay.

7. Once you've completed this, identify all of the locations where you saw a significant decrease discharge rate. Using the factory wiring diagrams if necessary, determine all components supplied by those fuse/relay locations. Disconnect components from those circuits one at a time until you identify which one is the cause of the high current draw (as indicated by the ammeter).

What is the difference? Only thing is using the Volt (neg terminal process) protects your multimeter better.









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Posted: 5/19/13 10:34pm Message 6 of 29
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Vette(s): My Corvettes are a 1978 L-82 Coupe with an automatic transmission. It has a Silver Anniversary paint scheme with an Oyster interior. I also have a 2003 Electron Blue convertible, Milestone Edition with an LS-1 and a six speed transmission.
Thanks for the help.A buddy and I have a project to do tomorrow or Tuesday. I'm trying to get the car ready for the get together next month in Colorado Springs. Today I got the horn working. Yesterday I reapply see the headliner pieces to the T tops. I also have to work on the courtesy lights and the dome light. I appreciate the help. Lynn


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Posted: 5/19/13 11:05pm Message 7 of 29
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Vette(s): 1976 Silver/Firethorn. L48, 4spd. Original 2 bolt, vortec heads, 9.4:1 CR, Speed Pro Cam: 224/224@0.050, 112 LSA, Eagle Steel Crank.
I recently troubleshooted a similar problem. It turns out for me that it was factory alarm system. Got all that fixed now and I am down to .01 amps, which I assume is from my clock. The title of the thread is "good news and bad news" if you want to search - it was in the last few weeks. Good luck!



 

1976 Silver/Firethorn.  L48, 4spd.  Original 2 bolt, vortec heads, 9.4:1 CR, Speed Pro Cam: 224/224@0.050, 112 LSA, Eagle Steel Crank.

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Posted: 5/20/13 6:18am Message 8 of 29
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Woodland, WA - USA
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Vette(s): 1977 T-Top,350,Auto Black Ruby Pearl,Steeroids R&P conversion
the courtesy light timer is another source for draining the battery.

 




Re: electrical system troubleshooting

Posted: 5/21/13 3:15am Message 9 of 29
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Vette(s): black 1982 coupe slate gray interior, 350 crossfire, 1985 fuel pump, Steeroids R&P conversion
Here is an old thread on parasitic draw, see if this helps any.
http://www.c3vr.com/vrforums/message440538.html#440543



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Posted: 5/21/13 9:22pm Message 10 of 29
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Vette(s): My Corvettes are a 1978 L-82 Coupe with an automatic transmission. It has a Silver Anniversary paint scheme with an Oyster interior. I also have a 2003 Electron Blue convertible, Milestone Edition with an LS-1 and a six speed transmission.
Thanks for all the help. I plan to do the checking tomorrow or Thursday. I'll get back on how things went. I really appreciate it. I may have some questions on the alarm And the courtesy light timer. Right now the courtesy lights don't shut off.


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