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Re: Good news and bad news

Posted: 4/12/13 9:44am Message 11 of 36
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Make sure the light in the storage compartment is OFF....those things can stay on sometimes.
Other things in that circuit? Heck yeah....ciggy lighter, and the light for the clock are both on that same fuse/circuit. Ermm



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Re: Good news and bad news

Posted: 4/12/13 10:36am Message 12 of 36
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courtesy light timer could be the culpret


Re: Good news and bad news

Posted: 4/12/13 1:52pm Message 13 of 36
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Thanks Joel and Bob. I'll check the thins you mention - specially cig lighter and compartment light. Bob, I don't think mine has a timer - lights go off as soon as doors are closed. Two other questions: could it be the "door ajar" light? Or the "key in" buzzer? Both have had some issues lately.



 

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Re: Good news and bad news

Posted: 4/12/13 7:41pm Message 14 of 36
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Yep...the ZX2 "Convenience" option, which included the dome light delay, dint go into the cars until '77. Thumbs Up

The "Key in" buzzer could certainly cause a problem, but you should be able to hear it...and it is kinda in the same circuit as the courtesy lights, since it uses the same door pin-switch to provide the ground for the buzzer. However, the buzzer gets it's power from the brake light circuit....which is on a different fuse.
The "Door Ajar" light should also be tied into the door pin switch circuit somehow, but it aint showin on the wiring diagram, for some reason....Wacko



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Re: Good news and bad news

Posted: 4/14/13 9:55am Message 15 of 36
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Thanks, Joel.  I've narrowed this down now in that I know it's not the clock or the lighter as both are unplugged and I still draw .33 amps.  I'm guessing I've got some damaged orange wire somewhere in the courtesy light circuit that's allowing that amount of current to go to ground.  Or if the key-in buzzer or door ajar lights are somehow drawing the current maybe that could be it. More diagnosis - yippee.  

As an aside, I think the "clock light" part of that wiring diagram is a misprint.  I think it should be clock/lighter.  If the light for the clock was on that circuit it would be on all the time.  The clock light is on the same circuit as all the other gauge lights - gray wires.  The clock itself and the lighter are both on always-hot orange wires, which makes sense.  




 

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Re: Good news and bad news

Posted: 4/15/13 10:56pm Message 16 of 36
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Sorry for the many posts on this topic, but I think I'm getting closer.  Underneath the steering column there is a connector for the harness that leads to the back of the car - tail lights, cargo area light, fuel gauge tank unit, etc.  Unplugging this connector makes the current drain go away. It also turns off the cargo area light and the storage compartment light but leaves the front courtesy lights on.  Since I previously identified that removing the courtesy light fuse also eliminates the current drain I think I pretty much now know that the drain is either in the wiring between that connector and the lights or there is a problem with one of the lights themselves.  Sound reasonable?  Now to locate that fault exactly and fix it... 



 

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Re: Good news and bad news

Posted: 4/16/13 4:30am Message 17 of 36
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Dave-
Thanks for doing the leg work on this - I too have a vicious drain & must disconnect overnite.  We tried checking some of the more obvious items, but never went through the entire fuse box...(unlike Joel, I AM flexible enough to get under the dash Wink LOL  but have not taken the time to do a full diagnostic).  I'm curious to see where your search leads you.  Keep us posted!



 
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Re: Good news and bad news

Posted: 4/16/13 9:25am Message 18 of 36
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Bobbi's78 said:...(unlike Joel, I AM flexible enough to get under the dash Wink LOL

And I have the pics to prove it.....Evil Smile  LOL
It's good that you have narrowed it down to the rear harness. My money is on the storage compartment light....try removing that bulb and see how that works on the drain. If it doesn't change, then you may very well have a small chaffed wire somewhere in that harness, quite possibly where it runs under the trim plate next to the seat.



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Re: Good news and bad news

Posted: 4/16/13 6:47pm Message 19 of 36
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Touche' Joel Clap

Dave-  I forgot to mention that originally the car couldn't even sit for a couple of hours without draining the battery.  We tracked it down to a dealer installed LoJack which was tied into the glove box light & was hot all the time (the actual unit was up under the dash taped to the ductwork below the speaker).  Needless to say we ripped THAT out. 



 
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Re: Good news and bad news

Posted: 4/16/13 7:33pm Message 20 of 36
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Bobbi's78 said:  Touche' Joel Clap


ShockedShocked Wha'd you call me??! Angry

LOL Jest for that.....


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I hate diggin for parasitic drains...such a pain...disconnecting components one at a time, especially if you have to have the door closed, considering where the dang fuse box is on these cars....Angry





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