Topic: Injector 2 Battery Drain
in Forum: C3 Electrical

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The ECM is not the fusebox.

My only suggestion at this time is to check the voltage on the white wire on that injector connector with the key off, and the injector unplugged. If there is ANY voltage there, there is something that is giving it that voltage...there shouldn't be any voltage there with the key off, period. If you replaced the engine compartment harness, the problem will most likely be either the ignition switch itself, or the wiring under the dash.
Is this something that just started, or has it been a problem for a while?
Has there been any work done under the dash?
Is there any voltage present at the other injector with the key off?
Here's how the injector circuit works:
Key ON, the ignition switch sends 12v(or battery voltage) to the injector on one terminal. In order for the injector to fire, it must have a ground. This ground comes from the ECM(computer). The ground is what is known as a PWM(Pulse Width Modulated), meaning it pulses very quickly, and varies the pulses depending on engine speed, and other information gathered by the ECM needed to pulse the injector at the right frequency to keep the engine running at optimum performance. That's why they "click" when the engine is running. The ECM is turning it On/Off repeatedly, extremely fast.
So....in order for the injector to be the cause of a battery drain with the key off, there has to be something else on that circuit feeding voltage to the injector. It could be the ignition switch itself....or it could be some other wire that is "hot" with the key off that has shorted itself to the wire on the injector circuit.
I hope some of this makes sense.
I can only say that you really need to start at the injector, and work your way back to the ignition switch, looking for the problem spot. If you have already replaced the engine compartment harness, we can eliminate that as a suspect. From there, it will go thru the harness connector at the firewall, which is really the fusebox on the inside of the car. I have seen the fusebox connector melt enough to cause shorts/cross-feeds in the wiring harness, but it is rare.
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This problem has been around for a little while now. I had a similar problem with a battery drain some time back and tracked it down to the power seats. I just removed the fuse (since nobody drives my 'Vette but me

Don't know that I said this or not, but the drain does NOT occur if the harness is detached. Does that mean anything?
Thanks for the help!!!
Jeff

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I'm assuming that the car starts and runs fine, right? That would pretty much eliminate the injector as the problem, as far as the drain. The injector could be slightly grounded internally, but with the ign switch voltage being "killed" when you turn the key off, it would only effect the way it runs, but it wouldn't cause a drain.
You've got a wiring problem under the dash, or the ignition switch is bad....that's really the only two things it could possibly be....

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Just something to think about...

It's always something, ain't it?

Joel Adams
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New question: When I go to switch out the ignition switch, will I have to remove the steering wheel to get inside the column? My 'Haynes' book says I don't...but I'll be danged if I can see or figure out how to get the column open without taking off the steering wheel first. Am I going to have my hands full replacing that ignition switch?
Thanks Joel for all the help...you don't know how much I appreciate your great advice!
Jeff

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There is another thread on replacing the ignition switch here somewhere, with pics of the switch. Do a "search" and it should come up. I can look for it too, once I get to the shop.

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Joel Adams
C3VR Lifetime Member #56
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"Money can't buy happiness -- but somehow it's more comforting to cry in a CORVETTE than in a Kia"