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More Wiper problems

Posted: 7/18/14 2:31pm Message 1 of 6
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Temple City, CA - USA
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Vette(s): 1969 Daytona Yellow. 350 / Automatic.
Instead of usurping Dave's post, I'll start a new one.

My wiper door opens as expected but doesn't close unless it gets a slight jolt... either on the road or a tap with a finger.

But the wipers don't move.  Did the electrical tests and go the 13 volts on both the blue and green gounds when they are connected to the yellow power wire on low.  Only the blue and yellow make 13 volts on high.  Seems that is correct. This is key on 123 connector disconnected..

A direct ground jumper from ground to blue doesn't run the motor with the key on and 123 connector connected.

What do I check next?  Or is it time to remove the wiper motor?

Jim



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Re: More Wiper problems

Posted: 7/19/14 8:56am Message 2 of 6
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Vette(s): 1977 T-Top,350,Auto Black Ruby Pearl,Steeroids R&P conversion

Here is the schematic for a 1968 I hope it is the same.

http://www.C3VR.com/member_pages/4201_4300/4221/1968-Wiper-Schematic.jpg 

Before the motor I would check the door limit sw. the ground for the motor goes through it then through the override sw. Check that the override sw is turned I think fully to the right to be off. I can send you a pdf file that explain the full operation if you pm me with your email




Re: More Wiper problems

Posted: 7/20/14 12:35pm Message 3 of 6
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Vette(s): 1969 Daytona Yellow. 350 / Automatic.
I PM'd you.  Thanks for the info.  I thought if power was working to the 3-wire connector, everything else was fine.  But, I've learned to put aside everything I've learned until the problem is fixed.  (I wish I had learned that decades ago.)Geek

Jim



Re: More Wiper problems - WORKING NOW

Posted: 8/4/14 2:35pm Message 4 of 6
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Thanks to all the advice and pictures everyone's posted regarding wiper problems.  The best ever suggestion was to go to the assembly manual for instructions and pictures on adjusting the wipers.  Anybody who is having wiper problems, it is time to get an Assembly Manual.  After the instructions for install, there is a page describing adjustment.  This is what finally got ours going.  Another note, remove the grill and the door for complete access to the area underneath.    It only 8 screws and 4 bolts.

Mine still has a bum brass tube for the RH washer, a torn boot on the RH safety switch, and a broken headlight washer pump.  If I see these at a good price, I might replace them but for now, the door opens the wipers wipe and the door closes.  That makes me happy!! Thumbs Up


Re: More Wiper problems

Posted: 8/5/14 9:47am Message 5 of 6
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Re: More Wiper problems

Posted: 10/8/14 1:53pm Message 6 of 6
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Vette(s): 1973 L82 4 Speed Coupe - Very original, well documented driver/survivor. 2016 Bend Regional NCRS Top Flight.

Reading through some older posts and came across electrical/wiper problems. I had a strange situation on my '73 when I purchased it that I could not find mention of in any Corvette forums. I'll call it "Wipers Won't Park".

Long story short, after some serious clean-up and other garbage detail I installed a new battery to see what kind of electrical issues I had. Most noticeable were the wipers, who refused to move when I used the switch and remained in the stopped but un-parked position.

After a few minutes of investigation, I quickly noted that the wiper motor was getting warm so I immediately disconnected the battery. First thought was something is bound up either in the motor or the arm assembly. Disconnected wiper motor/arms and found everything was okay. Using a couple procedures I found on line, I bench tested the motor and switch. All worked fine separately but when I hooked everything back up and connected the battery the wipers went back into their un-parked position. Things that make you go Hmmmm...........

Next disconnected everything and checked for voltage and continuity. All were fine until I got to the wiper motor ground wire which somehow showed 12.8 volts ??!! Reconnected everything except the ground wire, ran my own ground to the engine block and waa-laa, everything worked perfectly using the switch and no heat issues.

Tracing the wiper motor ground wire on the '73 schematic, I found it trailed to the hood alarm switch and the starter ground. Looking at the box of spare parts I received when I got the car, I noticed the starter heat shield and forward mounting bracket. Looks like the starter had been out for some reason, probably when the original owner's son and a buddy tried to put a clutch in the car and that didn't go so good.

The good news is that I had not tried to turn over the motor yet, so disconnect the battery and proceed to the starter. It took a while but I found a fried fuseable link and the starter ground wire that was supposed to be attached to one of the bell housing bolts had been installed with the main hot lead to the center starter terminal. I guess that's how you get 12.8 volts up through the ground wire !!

New fuseable link, connections back where they belong and the rest of the starter parts installed, wipers were fixed and I probably avoided frying the starter and a few other components.

I realize these circumstances are pretty bizarre and the chances of it happening to someone else are slim, but never say never. I hope this may help someone in the future who asks "Hey my wipers won't park ??" 

      




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