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Power Door Lock Switch (1/14)
 7/18/03 10:18am
The RookLifetime Member
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Does anyone know how to test a power door lock switch to see if its bad? I keep blowing a fuse whenever I plug the switch into the pigtail. The circut is fine until I plug it in.. |headscratch|
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Power Door Lock Switch (2/14)
 9/20/03 6:44pm
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The ground for the power door lock system comes through the right door switch. There are two black wires comming from the plug that go to a lug that is screwed to the door frame. You may want to remove this screw and see if it still blows the fuse.

If you have an multimeter and a wiring diagram you can measure the switch contacts for continuity. If you do not have a diagrame let me know, I will try to post a picture of the switch and its contacts.
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Power Door Lock Switch (3/14)
 10/1/03 4:35pm
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So, your saying that the ground itself could be bad...Im going nutz with this. Ive gone so far as replacing the entire dash harness. Imagine how discouraged I was after spending big $ on the harness and the darn courtesy fuse blew again.....Id appreciate anyone elses input too.. Thanks

Dan |headscratch|

|UPDATED|10/1/2003 4:35:16 PM|/UPDATED|
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Power Door Lock Switch (4/14)
 10/2/03 7:51pm
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Not exactly. The switch plug is wired as shown below

CONTACT WIRE FUNCTION
A ORANGE FUSED 12 VOLTS INTO SWITCH
B BLACK GROUND INTO SWITCH
C PINK 12 LOCK OR UNLOCK TO DRIVER'S SWITCH
(I can nor remember which)
D PURPLE 12 LOCK OR UNLOCK TO DRIVER'S SWITCH
(I can nor remember which)
E BLACK GROUND INTO SWITCH

Since the under dash harness has been replaced I would start by checking each of the above wires with an Ohm meter to verify that they are going to the correct place.

If your switch is shorted and connecting contact "A" to contact "B" or "E" the fuse will blow. So my second step would be to disconnect the lug (on the end of the two black wires) from the door frame and see if the fuse blows.
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Power Door Lock Switch (5/14)
 10/3/03 9:08am
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Im not very versed in electronics, but when we were checking for a short, we were getting a negative reading on the orange lead.....I think this means that the orange is touching ground. Is that correct..... |headscratch|

I have the NCRS wiring diagram book and according to that, everything is connectd properly....
Dan

|UPDATED|10/3/2003 9:08:01 AM|/UPDATED|
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Power Door Lock Switch (6/14)
 10/3/03 6:04pm
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When you got the negative reading, were you using a volt meter with the (+)red lead on the orange wire and the (-) black lead on ground? If the leads were reversed you would read -12 volt rather than the expected +12 volt.

I have posted a diagram of the switch contacts on
http://f1.pg.photos.yahoo.com/lcd79vet With the diagram and your Ohm meter you can check your switch.
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Power Door Lock Switch (7/14)
 10/7/03 6:56am
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But, with the fuse out, should I be getting any reading on the orange wires at all???? Your diagram looks just like the one I have in the NCRS wiring book. Do you think it has anything to do with the fact that my vette was an early production 79.....perhaps I should look at the 78 diagram. Any further help would be greatly appreciated...

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Power Door Lock Switch (8/14)
 10/7/03 11:34pm
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According to my diagram if the fuse is out you should not measure any voltage on the orange wire. I am going to replace the passenger door switch on my 79 tomorrow. I will measure the voltage on the orange wire with the fuse in and out. I will post the results tomorrow night. My 79 was built in October of 78 and it matches the 79 wiring diagram.

What voltage value do you measure (+12 or some other value)?
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Power Door Lock Switch (9/14)
 10/8/03 12:25pm
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I measured the voltage on the orange wire at the passenger door lock switch.

1. Fuse in: measured +12.3 volts
2. Fuse out: measured +0.5 to +0.6 depending on where I connected the negative (black) lead of the meter (ground).
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Power Door Lock Switch (10/14)
 10/13/03 8:06pm
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How come I aint got no power door lock switch? |headscratch| |idea|

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Power Door Lock Switch (11/14)
 10/29/03 8:28am
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Ok update time.....just a bit closer to insanity.

I have replaced the dash harness and am still having the same problem of blowing the ctsy lamp fuse. However, this past week I plugged in the new lock swithces and didnt have the passenger side all the way in the plug end and was able to get the locks on the drivers side to unlock only. As soon as I seated the switch on the passenger side all the way in, the fuse blew AGAIN.....ARGHHHH!!!!

Any help here would be greatly appreciated
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Power Door Lock Switch (12/14)
 10/31/03 11:52pm
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When I replaced the passenger lock switch I had a similar problem ( the fuse did not blow). I could only lock the doors from the driver’s side. When I ohm checked the wires from the drivers side I was missing a ground. As soon as I seated the connector on the passenger’s door all was fine. If my car was blowing the fuse I would do the following:

1. Remove both passenger and driver’s interior door panels.
2. Remove the door lock switch from each panel and mark them so I would know which switch was on which door.
3. Measure and record the voltage on all five wires in each door. Only the orange wire in both doors should have +12 volt, all others should be 0.0 volts (+-)0.5 volt. If any of the wires, other than the orange one, have voltage on them then you have a short some place in the harness. If all are OK proceed to step 4.
4. Plug the switch from the driver’s door back into the drivers door.
5. Measure and record the voltage on all five wires in the passenger door. Only the orange wire should have +12 volts. If any of the wires, other than the orange one, have voltage on them then you have a defective switch.. If all are OK proceed to step 6,
6. Remove the door lock fuse.
7. Plug the switch from the passenger’s door back into the passenger’ door.
8. Measure the resistance between the orange wire and each of the other 4 wires in the passengers. Door. They should measure open.

Good luck
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Power Door Lock Switch (13/14)
 11/1/03 8:24am
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I rememeber working with the power locks on my 81,
I'm always trying to save a buck, I rebuilt the lock actuators and both switches were bad, I blew several fuses messing with it, I didn't care for the price the vette parts house near me wanted for the switches so I went to my local pep boys/discount auto parts and in the section of parts called "help" they sell a GM single power window switch it has the 5 poles like the door lock switchs on vettes, the bezel that comes on it is plain where the vette bezel has "lock" printed on it so if you are purist you switch bezels it's just clipped on the switch, I bought two of these for far less than vette parts houses get for one and my door locks work beautful now.
Cheers, T. |thumb|
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Power Door Lock Switch (14/14)
 11/23/03 6:39pm
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Would you guys believe that after 4 months of hair pulling I finally figured out my door lock problem....the #$@*ing switches I bought were bad(four total, who would have thought).....I'm so mad and so relieved at the same time.
Barring no further disasters, I'm starting to reassemble my vette. Thanks to all for your input and help.

Dan |thumb|
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