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Start Button

Posted: 6/27/13 4:27pm Message 1 of 16
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hi everybody! New challenge for you guys! i want to install an starter button on my vette 81! I have no idea on colors of cables for the connection. For the black one, no problem! there's anyone who could tell me the color of the others cables where I could connect them? I want use the "direct wiring method". You can look the instructions on this picture! thank's for your help!

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Re: Start Button

Posted: 6/27/13 7:48pm Message 2 of 16
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I will try to look at this further when I get time but here is the elec connection from the 81 elec diagram which you can study
 
 



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Posted: 6/28/13 9:58am Message 3 of 16
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My first question is...WHY?! Is this an anti-theft device?
The diagram from the manufacturer is confusing as heck. "Blue wire here, another blue wire there, red wire here"
The line drawing in the black box makes no sense at all, as you do need to cut the wires on the vehicle harness....but the diagram only shows one wire in the "Start"(ST) circuit.....where the heck is the other wire that actually sends power to the starter solenoid?
If you can take a picture of the actual box you have, it might help to make sense of it.
I'm usually pretty good at wiring diagrams, but this......not a clue!


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Re: Start Button

Posted: 6/28/13 7:09pm Message 4 of 16
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Yes Adam, I admit that a little confusing! and thank's rraider1 for this diagram!!
In fact, it's just a button to start the car. You can find this in newer cars or supercars! you use the key of the vehicle normally until contact and press the button to start the starter! No need to cut the cables, only use the supplied accessories! here is a picture of the housing.








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Posted: 6/28/13 7:07pm Message 5 of 16
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Posted: 6/28/13 7:29pm Message 6 of 16
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Best I can tell, it needs to be connected like this.






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Re: Start Button

Posted: 6/29/13 9:43am Message 7 of 16
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Won't help you with your wiring issues, but I thought this vid of a '74 with a start button showed a cool way to implement it.  Also demonstrates the cool (but loud) sound of a Vette with chambered exhaust.  







 

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Posted: 6/29/13 11:57am Message 8 of 16
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I think your right Joel the blue wires most likely are the relay contacts, the red wire power for the relay in the box. black ground  Not sure why the wire to the push sw has three wires it would energize the relay, unless it is lighted the third would power a light in the sw.
and as you show if the wire for the start sol is not interrupted (cut) the key switch would still start it.


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Posted: 6/29/13 2:53pm Message 9 of 16
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I like the video.  Nice sound.


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Posted: 6/29/13 5:47pm Message 10 of 16
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Yes good example in this video, too bad i can not see if he uses only the button to start or with the key and after the button!

in the example of drawing, the cables are no cuts. there is one LED inside who enlighten when the button is pressed!

Adam, if you think this is the right way to connect, in two weeks, I'm on vacation and I'll try to see if it works!


how are you GIL??


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