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77 brakes failed

Posted: 7/30/08 6:38pm Message 11 of 18
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IF you want to eliminate the booster portion of the diagnosis, just push the pedal a few times with the engine off.  With reserve vacuum gone you can feel the pedal and hydraulics without the advantage of the booster.  It is a bit harder to push, but gives you a better idea of what is going on with the system.


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77 brakes failed

Posted: 7/30/08 7:38pm Message 12 of 18
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And...with no vac. in the booster, if the pedal STILL goes down to the floor....well...there ya go! It needs a master. It will be hard to push, but, as Ken says, it will still move. A good master, with no vac. in the booster, will feel solid as a rock, and the pedal will be REALLY hard to push down any more than an inch or so.

Be sure to "bench-bleed" the master before installing it.


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77 brakes failed

Posted: 7/31/08 8:37am Message 13 of 18
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77 brakes failed

Posted: 8/1/08 3:18pm Message 14 of 18
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Don't forget about the diverter/proportioning valve, sometimes it will stick, commonly after fluid loss though.


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Posted: 8/3/08 4:47pm Message 15 of 18
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Thanks guys for all the help; I did replace the master cylinder and then the front rubber hoses with stainless lines... one more bleeding and I should be good.


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77 brakes failed

Posted: 8/10/08 3:05pm Message 16 of 18
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Well the second and third bleeding, (after the master cylinder and new stainless lines), is complete.  ...and now she stops; thanks again for all the help.


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Posted: 8/10/08 3:32pm Message 17 of 18
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[QUOTE=Adams' Apple]...
Be sure to "bench-bleed" the master before installing it.[/QUOTE]
 
What do you mean by Bench-Bleed? I was considering changing out my mc because I see a substantial leak at the back of it by the power booster. I dont know if its seel or mc but Its one.
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77 brakes failed

Posted: 8/10/08 4:11pm Message 18 of 18
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Will,
Bench Bleeding refers to bleeding the MC prior to putting it back on the car. I am sure there is a better way but I filled the MC with fluid and used a screwdriver to pump the piston; eventually fluid will squirt out...



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