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Brake Caliper Bolts...Grrrrrrrr

Posted: 10/16/08 12:42pm Message 1 of 13
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Im in the process of replacing my rear emergency brake cable and am trying to get my calipers off so I can see what Im doing.  My rear rotors are not the originals so I know the calipers have been off before but getting the bolts out that hold the calipers to the brackets is, shall we say "difficult"!!!!  So far I have got 3 of the 4 loose but am still working on breaking the 4th loose.  I dont know who put them on or what kind of wrench they used but Im using a good wrench with a 14 inch "cheater bar" and having a tough time. Are they supposed to be this bad to get out?   When I finally get these things out and reinstall them, are they just torqued with the lock washer or some threadlocking compound used on them.  Ive seen on the "other forum" suggestions ranging from nothing to red loctite, to blue loctite. What say the real authorities here?
 
OK, calipers are off but the rotor refuses to come off.  The rivets are completely gone (this is a replacement rotor).  I cut the park brake cable to eliminate any bind on the emergency brake shoes but rotor is solid and refuses to move.  What am I missing??
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Brake Caliper Bolts...Grrrrrrrr

Posted: 10/16/08 3:16pm Message 2 of 13
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Make sure that the ebrake are has released, push the cable arm/holder towards the back of the car.
Take a hammer and bang on the top hat to try to free them up from the hub.
You may have to go through the hole in the rotor to back off the ebrake shoes/adjuster they may be hanging up a bit.
 
They are more then likely just stuck on the hub after tapping them with the hammer grab the left and right side of the rotor and wiggle back and forth pulling outwards. This will help to get over the rusted area of the hub.
Hope this helps
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Brake Caliper Bolts...Grrrrrrrr

Posted: 10/16/08 4:45pm Message 3 of 13
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Been there too with "difficult" caliper bolt...actually, i rounded one of the heads and thought i was in a real pickle of a situation... ultimately, i literally drove on a socket that was smaller than the actual size, and used an electric impact gun to work it off.  Seems the "rat-tat-tat" of an impact actaully helps loosen rusted in bolts, as i was just doing the same as you are, using a cheater bar.  So, if possible, get some penetrating oil(Liquid Wrench, PB Blaster, Break Free, etc..) and soak it overnight at least, longer is better... sometimes, using a little heat works too, propane torch, and heat the bolt up, then drench with oil(careful here, not to catch anything on fire)... maybe that will help??? (at least look into an impact gun..it does wonders).....
 
As for the rotor, as crossfire said, its probably rusted up on the center hub, again, could use a little oil around it, and tap on the rotor side to side. All sounds too easy, eh?... (been there too..) think i ended up taking a baby sledge to it and wacking it ... :)
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Brake Caliper Bolts...Grrrrrrrr

Posted: 10/16/08 5:06pm Message 4 of 13
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Got them both off !! Guys, thanks for the advise.  I let some PB blaser soak through the old rivet holes for about 2 hours and used some gentle "persuasion" with a 3 pound dead blow hammer.  It took a few whacks on the "hat" between the wheel lugs but but they popped loose and pulled right off. 


Brake Caliper Bolts...Grrrrrrrr

Posted: 10/16/08 6:53pm Message 5 of 13
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Good go, don't forget to check your ebrake shoes for cracks and the hardware. Now is a good time to take sandpaper or a file to the to the center of the hub to get any burrs off and apply a little...a little anti seize or brake easy slide to the surface. Makes it easy for next time service.
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Posted: 10/16/08 7:41pm Message 6 of 13
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Don't use any type of thread locker on the caliper bolts. If the bolts fit loose, replace them. I too have had problems getting a few caliper bolts off over the years....a little penetrant, a few well placed whacks with a hammer, and an impact will always work. Even without an impact, the other two work quite well.
Check to make sure someone didn't cross-thread the bolt(s) in there...it's been done.
Glad ya got it apart, anyway.


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Brake Caliper Bolts...Grrrrrrrr

Posted: 10/17/08 4:55am Message 7 of 13
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Thanks guys!  The bolts were not cross threaded and are the proper grade 8 bolts but there had to be some thread locker on them of some kind.  I will clean them up and install bare.  These things are a PITA to get to in addition to being tight. 




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Posted: 10/17/08 8:03am Message 8 of 13
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Clean the threads, use fresh lockwashers and an eence of anti sieze compound on the threads. Had mine that way for te last 4 years and never a problem!!


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Brake Caliper Bolts...Grrrrrrrr

Posted: 10/17/08 8:28pm Message 9 of 13
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How did you make out?
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Brake Caliper Bolts...Grrrrrrrr

Posted: 11/20/08 9:30pm Message 10 of 13
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Best way to remove is electric im-pack drill OPPS did I say that?? Waited till tread about ended before saying that. No lock tight needed as stated. Thanks
 
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