Home page
SPONSOR AD SPONSOR AD

Topic: I make big big bo boo

in Forum: C3 Engines, Driveline and Handling


I make big big bo boo

Posted: 4/23/07 7:53am Message 1 of 16
Former Member
Send PM
Fresno, TX - USA
Joined: 1/15/2007
Posts: 240
Vette(s): 1980 corvette
I called my self trying to calculate back space and did not do it right. I was using the wheel that was on the car with out taking it off. I thought it was 4 inch back space with about a inch to spare. I bought some intro pentia 17x10 4.5 b/s rear and 17x8 4. b/s front, I ask for this size. After a day of slobing of the wheels something told me " Hay nut try the wheels on the car. I just pulled the old wheel off the back and found out it has a 3.5 back space. Then I noticed ,oh look a brake cable. Where did that come from?. New wheels do not fit The rear. Never trid the front.Ouch Only one good thing, the wheels only cost me 750.00 with rolled lip.


  
SPONSOR AD:: (Our Sponsors help support C3VR)

I make big big bo boo

Posted: 4/23/07 8:33am Message 2 of 16
Former Member
Send PM
Fresno, TX - USA
Joined: 1/15/2007
Posts: 240
Vette(s): 1980 corvette
I guess I have a case of the blind leading the blind. That donut hole told me the were  4.5 rear and 4 front and I just found out the are 5.5 back space rear and 5. front. damm dammm dammmm dammm


  

I make big big bo boo

Posted: 4/23/07 9:00am Message 3 of 16
Lifetime MemberLifetime Member
Send PM
Irving, TX - USA
Joined: 8/21/2004
Posts: 4273
Vette(s): #1 -1969 Corvette Coupe Riverside Gold, black interior,MN,A/C,350/350,PS,PB,window cranks. #2 -2000 C5, black/black, 6 sp, Bose system & lots of buttons.
Shoot, I would go to Discount Tire and see what they have in P225/70Rx15" - those should fit with no problem. Big%20smile


�����
My Link


MICK - C3VR Lifetime Member #113

I make big big bo boo

Posted: 4/23/07 9:03am Message 4 of 16
Limited Member
Send PM
Newark, DE - USA
Joined: 7/26/2004
Posts: 468
Vette(s): 1968 Conv, 454HO,500HP-600TQ, TKO-600,3:70 HD rear,hotrod air, custom paint & suspension,1973 Ruby Red,T-top, 383 Stroker, TK)-500,frame off restro, 1967 Dodge Coronet, 340 stroker to 406, Dana 60
Youy can try VBP & get some spacers. Call them first
Alan



                                               

I make big big bo boo

Posted: 4/23/07 9:27am Message 5 of 16
Former Member
Send PM
Fresno, TX - USA
Joined: 1/15/2007
Posts: 240
Vette(s): 1980 corvette
Ok guess im all smiles now. I called intro that makes pentia's He told me that the 17x10 comes standard with 5.5 back spacing. but they have put them on hundreds of vettes. He said just move brake cable and I will have to get a off set sway bar and it will bolt right on. He said I can also use spacers using Et lug nuts. If I use a spacer I can run a 295 size tire on the 10 wheel. what do you think? 


  

I make big big bo boo

Posted: 4/23/07 12:53pm Message 6 of 16
Profile Pic
Lifetime MemberLifetime Member
Send PM
Manteca, CA - USA
Joined: 11/20/2005
Posts: 3623
Vette(s): 1978,two tone,Metalic Rootbeer & gold 1975 L48 4 speed
BEWARE !If you don't go the tremendous trouble to change out the studs, the lugs won't have as many threads to hold onto. Those of us who have had spacers usually find out the hard way of the DANGERS.Try to avoid spacers if you can Nuke.


I make big big bo boo

Posted: 4/23/07 1:36pm Message 7 of 16
Lifetime MemberLifetime Member
Send PM
Huntsville, AL - USA
Joined: 11/15/2003
Posts: 857
Vette(s): 1971 convertible,375 HP 350ci,Muncie 4-speed,Edelbrock aluminum heads and RPM air-gap manifold,HEI distrubiter - old school mechanical tach drive. LOUD side exhaust!
I;ve been reading a lot about wheels lately, and I've yet to see this answered (or asked). How do you measure the backspacing you have/need for your current wheels? If you get larger wheels, can you get ones with the same backspacing and be ok (within reason - something like 17" wheels)?


I make big big bo boo

Posted: 4/23/07 2:27pm Message 8 of 16
Profile Pic
Lifetime MemberLifetime Member
Send PM
Manteca, CA - USA
Joined: 11/20/2005
Posts: 3623
Vette(s): 1978,two tone,Metalic Rootbeer & gold 1975 L48 4 speed
I've never really given any thought to the recipe. There are so many variables, different manufacturers, tire and wheel sizes. I've always stayed reasonably close to stock sizing but I'd bet someone who lives tires and wheels everyday would have the formula down. When I was looking for new wheels recently I ran into the same dilema. Maybe it was the price of wheels and tires these days that scared me but  I gave up quickly and went with the norm.


I make big big bo boo

Posted: 4/23/07 3:19pm Message 9 of 16
Former Member
Send PM
Fresno, TX - USA
Joined: 1/15/2007
Posts: 240
Vette(s): 1980 corvette
Offset:
The distance from the centerline of the wheel to the wheel bolt up face, and is described as Positive or Negative.

Positive Offset describes the bolt up face and outside of rim is farther towards the outer part of the wheel.

Negative Offset Offset describes the bolt up face and outside of rim is farther towards the inner part of the wheel.

Backspace:
Backspace is the distance from the edge of the inner rim to the wheel bolt up face.

The width of the rim determines the centerline and from there you can calculate backspacing and offset:

Complete Info Here

Example: On a 10" rim, centerline is at 5". A 4.5" B/S is 5" - 4.5" = .5" positive offset (outer rim face away from the bolt up face). Changing to a 4" B/S is 5" - 4" = 1" positive offset. So while a 4.5" B/S pushes the rim out .5", a 4" B/S pushes the same rim out 1".


  

I make big big bo boo

Posted: 4/23/07 3:25pm Message 10 of 16
Former Member
Send PM
Fresno, TX - USA
Joined: 1/15/2007
Posts: 240
Vette(s): 1980 corvette
Say Jimmy, I thought the spacers had the studs on them. You bolt the spacer down using your studs and use a et bolts. They screw on flush. you bolt the wheel on to the spacer studs. 


  

in Forum: C3 Engines, Driveline and Handling


SPONSOR AD: (Our Sponsors help support C3VR)