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TRailing arms/spindles

Posted: 2/24/06 5:29pm Message 1 of 15
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Hey guys...

As you all know my dad knows  a good mechanic.. I gave him my trailing arms to take apart,a dn re assemble the bearings after they went bad... Anyway he's got on apart, and I grinded/sanded/primed/painted it and its ready to go back together. However the driver's side seems to have a bit of a prob... the bearing is lodged into the spindle. And he can;t get the spindle off... he tried the press.. but the press is too small for the arm to fit, wod, and small sledge hamemr won;t get it out... heating the bearing won't get it loose.... what other option is there? I was thinking of taking it to a mchine shop... but to save money, and time... Is there another way for him to try?

 

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-Louis




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TRailing arms/spindles

Posted: 2/24/06 6:37pm Message 2 of 15
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Oh, the joys of independant Corvette suspension!! Louis, do you have the bearing support off of the trailing arm? That will make it easier to get it set up on a press. You have to be really carefull if the bearing is "welded" to the spindle, as you can break the bearing support($$) . You may wind up having to cut the bearing(s) off with a smoke wrench. The spindle is most likely no good now anyway, if the bearing is welded, but you can at least save the support. I would suggest you take it(just the bearing support) to a machine shop, and have them try.


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Posted: 2/24/06 6:54pm Message 3 of 15
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Getting the bearing off is not easy as Joel says. Here is a link that takes you through the rebuild process.

http://www.fastcorvette.com/RearSpindleSchool.htm

When I did mine, the bearing were slip fit. So I did not have to press off. The only problem, the shop that did the rebuild many years used a cut off wheel on the bearing. In so doing they sliced the spindle 1/8" deep and then reinstalled it

I would recommend taking or shipping it to someone who knows what they are doing.




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Posted: 2/24/06 8:28pm Message 4 of 15
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spindles are not something you want BUBBA,experimenting on,I took mine to a drive shaft shop once,and the guy said "Ya I kin do dat,he stuck the first one in a vice,and picked up a 5# hammer,I grabbed it out of the vice and ran like h311,then found a machine shop right down the street,who has been doing them for the last 30 years,15 minutes off and on boom they were done.this is something you want done right.aint nothin more embarassing than watching your own rear wheel pass you going down the road.I do hope that the guy checked the end play in the bearings,after he put it back together,there are shims that have to be added or removed for end play, it has to be right,or you're just throwing your hard earned money out the window.you dont want to do this job every other weekend.I can't say this strongly enough ,find somebody that knows how to do the spindles the right way,whether locally or have them sent out.it sounds like the bearing is welded the axle,if so it probably is'nt salvageable,but you can probably save the bearing support,but do'nt beat on it,it will break,and they ai'nt cheap.there are 4 bolts that hold the trailing arm on the bearing support,and a short shoulder at the edge of the bearing support that is a tight fit into the trailing arm,once you get the nuts off the bolts you have to CAREFULLY pry the 2 apart,that makes it a lot easier to get it into the press,with the trailing arm out of the way.get them done right ,do'nt rush the job  Ron 7838772.8541087963


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Posted: 2/24/06 9:09pm Message 5 of 15
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Ron's eyesight must be failing?    


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Posted: 2/24/06 11:55pm Message 6 of 15
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Louis,

    I got a brand new set of arms with reconditioned GM spindles, all new bearings, races, seals, ebarkes parts etc from a guy that deals through ebay known as Tylersparts. THIS GUY DOES QUALITY WORK AND GTYS IT!! He used to build arms for several major parts houses, then his son decided to carry on with the business when he decided to retire, and ps, they're still in the bizaneeeess!!

    Have a look at this link, for $600 ($300/side) and your old arms, he'll redo them with all the needed parts. It doesn't get a heck of a lot cheaper than that, and done by a guy in the business for 3 decades. Get in touch with him. I bet he'll even work with the parts you purchased and play with the price. He mentioned that he's straightened out many failed self attempts on arm rebuilds. Plus 3 year wty and free shipping!!!! This is just such a reasonable deal...

    I'll agree with Ron - there's nothing more revolting than having your rear wheel pass you!! Or to have it bust into your interior through the rear wheel well and be sitting next to you

    Go with a pro! See the link and tell him Paul from NJ sent you. You may do better (or maybe a bit worse )

Link:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1965-1982-CORVETTE-TRAILING-A RM-SPRING-SPECIAL_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ34200QQitemZ461 5123207QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW

Good luck,

Paul (aka Luke)

 

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Posted: 2/25/06 8:00am Message 7 of 15
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Joel,I think your right,I was typing that out last night,and my wife remarked from halfway across the room,Is'nt that awfully large print!?I told here I was trying to get the point across to Louis that it should be done right.Sorry if I offended anybodies eyes




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Posted: 2/25/06 8:39am Message 8 of 15
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Posted: 3/4/06 3:35pm Message 9 of 15
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Did mine myself and they are a pain.  If the bearing is welded on, get a new spindle and use the old one as a set up spindle once you have turned the interference fit off it. 

 

If you cant get the old bearing to budge even with some heat, I would be investing in a new set of trailing arms as there is probably some other problems in there as well.  In the US it's cheaper than in Oz.  I had to cut an outer off and that's the one I use for my set up now.

The bearings MUST be an interference fit.  If they're not as I saw someone saying, you'll definitely have a rear wheel over take you at some stage.  The inner bearing race must act like part of the spindle and not be allowed to move or the spindle will wear out and snap.

 

Well, that's my dimes worth.  They're easy to do yourself if you are handy with your hands and have the right tools.  The big thing is not to be too anxious to get things apart or back together, TAKE YOUR TIME.




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Posted: 3/5/06 9:29am Message 10 of 15
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Louis post sounds like a fake. I wonder if he works at the shop? The whole thing sounds a like a commercial.


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