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Updating Suspension

Posted: 4/18/05 8:27am Message 31 of 56
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columbus, MS - USA
Joined: 1/18/2005
Posts: 48
Vette(s): 1972 coupe
Street Shark, If you are on the ground in Afghanastan my hat is off to you! Thank you for what you are doing. I was A/D with the 5th 34 years ago in the 'Nam. Good luck, good hunting, Godspeed and when you get back I want to meet you in Bowling Green with your Shark and buy you a beer ( or a bunch of them) Thanks from a greatful Green Weenie! Once a Greenie always a Greenie!


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Updating Suspension

Posted: 4/18/05 11:14am Message 32 of 56
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Fayetteville, NC - USA
Joined: 2/13/2005
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Vette(s): 1968 Corvette Convertable, 4 spd, 350 SB, Daily Driver

Swallace, love to see you in KY.  I can't hardly wait to get home and start working on my car.  I have wanted one since I was a teenager, I have a lot of dreams to fulfill with that car.  Glad to hear you served, I was in 5th during the mid 90's, 7th during Just Cause, back over here with 7th again.  "De Oppresso Liber"

Hoover, can't wait to hear how your ride comes out.  Several members have purchased the steeroids option recently, only a few seem to have the monospring, really looking forward to the results.




Updating Suspension

Posted: 4/20/05 6:02am Message 33 of 56
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Charlevoix, MI - USA
Joined: 11/8/2003
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Vette(s): 1981 4speed
First of all, Street Shark, Thank you for your service to our country. Get home safe. As far as the VBP transverse front spring and the steeroids rack and pinion, one word - FANTASTIC! If you're into handling, these upgrades will make you wonder what happened to your old shark with the loose steering and suspension. I got a chance to flog the car a little yesterday on the twisties and I'll tell you that it will handle with my brother's '92. Both kits are both bolt-on and straight-forward. Also very good quality parts beautifully powder coated. It took me a lot longer than it should only because I had to remove my headers for the rack and also did other stuff while I was in there. Also, I went for new VBP upper and lower control arms. You can get a kit with just the spring and use your old arms. Or go with the spring and new lower arms. I replaced the uppers too and glad I did. Hey, what's a little more money? Here are the other handling upgrades I've done over the past couple years - rebuilt rear suspension with poly bushings and 330lb monoleaf spring from VBP. Pirelli Scorpion Zero 255/60R/15 Tires, Bilstien shocks all around. Now I have the shark styling I love with new car handling!


Updating Suspension

Posted: 4/20/05 9:29am Message 34 of 56
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Fayetteville, NC - USA
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Vette(s): 1968 Corvette Convertable, 4 spd, 350 SB, Daily Driver

That is awesome!  New car ride and handling, classic shark stylin'.  I am going to go all out on this with the full kit!  After I get the suspension in place, I will go after the steeroids advantage, mine has manuel steering and I have to get everything for the power steering in adition to the rack and pinion kit, so that will come after.  First thing I have to do is a complete interior.  Mine is completely trashed.  By Fall I should be all set.  If my wife gives me enough time to work on the beast.  After being gone this long the honey do list must be huge.

 




Updating Suspension

Posted: 4/22/05 4:25am Message 35 of 56
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Vette(s): 1981 4speed
Gotta have your priorities - do the Corvette first! (easy for me to say). By the way, Steeroids makes rack and pinion kits for manual steering cars, in case you want to stay that way. Check out their website - speeddirect.com. Also, a word on the transverse front spring - I love the ride but it's firm. It's also adjustable, though and I'm at the second to stiffest setting (out of four possible). Also ride height is adjustable on that spring as well as the monoleaf I have in the rear. Anyway, let us know what you end up doing and how you like it!


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Posted: 4/23/05 12:56am Message 36 of 56
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Bismarck, ND - USA
Joined: 10/1/2004
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Vette(s): 1970 stingray, t-top, mulsanne blue with black interior, 406 ci with 444 hp, racing suspension, hooker headers/sidepipes - SOLD :(

the super performance plus kit from VBP, does that eliminate our nasty IRS setup and switch over to a 4-link?  I'm looking for a way to get more of my power/torque from the flywheel down to the ground, as well as improving the ride and handling.

Also, right not, getting up to about 95 and over on the highway, she feels like she starts to sway a little bit and I have to fight the steering wheel to keep her under control.  Would you say this is due to the suspension only, or could I fix it by tightening up the steering?




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Updating Suspension

Posted: 4/24/05 2:15pm Message 37 of 56
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I'm looking at the VBP catalog and it doesn't look like the kit  eliminates the IRS - only upgrades parts of it. You'd end up rebuilding trailing arms,too. (They're a bitch but would need to be done if they haven't been.) I'd give VBP a call and see if this is right for you. Van Steel also does a lot of suspension/steering stuff. They would be a good source of products and info. Also, get their video on suspension rebuilds if you plan to do the work yourself. $20 well spent. As far as the handling - have you done anything to the front suspension/steering or is it original? Could be worn out components or needing alignment or both. Hope this helps.


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Posted: 4/24/05 9:14pm Message 38 of 56
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Vette(s): 1970 stingray, t-top, mulsanne blue with black interior, 406 ci with 444 hp, racing suspension, hooker headers/sidepipes - SOLD :(
haven't touched the suspension, only the engine...I'd be looking for a way to get rid of the IRS...is there any way to do this short of spending 7 grand or more on the conversion to C4-style suspension?


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Posted: 4/25/05 12:15am Message 39 of 56
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Batavia, IL - USA
Joined: 3/27/2003
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Vette(s): 496 big block, Dragvette 6 link, 12 bolt IRS conversion, Going for fastest Vette IRS E/T
Why get rid of the IRS? That is what makes the vette so great is its handling. Anyways if you change To a C-4 style suspension you still have IRS. Independent Rear Suspension is critical to good handling. If you dont belive me go drive a camaro of the same year and take some sharp turns and you will see the big difference in solid rear axle handling to a vette IRS. If your looking for a 10 second vette then, yes I would see tubbing out the back and putting in a 4 link drag set up. But you will destroy your handling. It would only be good at straight line launches. A C-4 suspension swap would improve the handling on turns and twists but is definitly bad for an all out drag racer. There are Big differences in suspensions on a SCCA autocross Racer and a NHRA car. VBP kits are meant to improve the handling of the car during sharp turns. serious drag racing is not there intent when the kits were designed.


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Posted: 4/28/05 9:43am Message 40 of 56
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columbus, MS - USA
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Vette(s): 1972 coupe
Street Shark, Where are you dude. haven't heard anuthing from you in a few. Get on the forum. The old green weenie needs to know you ok dude!


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