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1.5:1 vs. 1.6:1 Rocker Arms ?????

Posted: 10/19/03 4:00pm Message 1 of 8
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Vette(s): 1981 Blue Ice Met. w/pearl ghost flames TKO500 5speed. LS1 Swap 3.45 Dana 44.
I need a little help here from some of you mathmatic wizards. I'd like to know what my gross cam lift would be after installing a set of 1.6:1 roller rocker arms.

Here's what I got now:
1.5:1 rockers, the intake lift is at .435 and .460 on the exhaust.
What would these numbers change to?
Duration-212 deg. intake, 222 deg. exhaust @.050"
Centerline-109 deg.ATDC intake,116 deg.BTDC exhaust.
And would I gain or lose power by going to 1.6:1 arms?
Thanks in advance for any assistance!
Sarge |headscratch|



GEN III 5.7L "LS6" Engine swap
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'69 "N11" Sidepipes
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1.5:1 vs. 1.6:1 Rocker Arms ?????

Posted: 10/20/03 10:47am Message 2 of 8
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the intake lift is at .435 (.435/1.5= cam lift of .290, .290x1.6= total lift of .464)
the exhaustis at 460 (.460/1.5= cam lift of 0.307, .307x1.6= total lift of .491)


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1.5:1 vs. 1.6:1 Rocker Arms ?????

Posted: 10/20/03 3:22pm Message 3 of 8
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Vette(s): 1981 Blue Ice Met. w/pearl ghost flames TKO500 5speed. LS1 Swap 3.45 Dana 44.
Thank you Brian!
The formula makes total sense to me. Now I can plug in some numbers in my Desktop Dyno and see if there is a signifigant increase in power.

Sarge |cheers|



GEN III 5.7L "LS6" Engine swap
TKO500 5 spd.
3.54 Dana 44
'69 "N11" Sidepipes
Borgeson Steering Box
Born 8/1981
Sequence #3975




Click here to see more pics of my Vette on CarDomain.


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1.5:1 vs. 1.6:1 Rocker Arms ?????

Posted: 10/23/03 5:17pm Message 4 of 8
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I want a desktop dyno !!!

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1.5:1 vs. 1.6:1 Rocker Arms ?????

Posted: 10/23/03 5:49pm Message 5 of 8
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Vette(s): 1981 Blue Ice Met. w/pearl ghost flames TKO500 5speed. LS1 Swap 3.45 Dana 44.
Hey Bill!
You can go to www.motionsoftware.com to check out and even order the program.
It's pretty cool. I've done a couple of actual engines using this program. They were then dyno'ed and were off by maybe 10 HP. Not bad. Save the hassle of guessing the best combination that suits you.
I found a camshaft setup that I will be putting in my vette using their program. I want my car to be a serious torque monster coming off the line. The cam I have in this crate motor just ain't getting it. All upper RPM range.
Sarge |cheers|



GEN III 5.7L "LS6" Engine swap
TKO500 5 spd.
3.54 Dana 44
'69 "N11" Sidepipes
Borgeson Steering Box
Born 8/1981
Sequence #3975




Click here to see more pics of my Vette on CarDomain.


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1.5:1 vs. 1.6:1 Rocker Arms ?????

Posted: 10/27/03 1:24pm Message 6 of 8
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Vette(s): 78 Silver Anniversary (2 Tone) L82 auto loaded
Hi Sarge
I read an engine build up story in Chevy Hi Performance
magazine and they had to grind the push rod slots
for clearance with 1:6 ratio rockers. It was a newer
engine than yours but something to be aware of.
Steve |wavey|


1.5:1 vs. 1.6:1 Rocker Arms ?????

Posted: 10/27/03 1:51pm Message 7 of 8
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Vette(s): 1981 Blue Ice Met. w/pearl ghost flames TKO500 5speed. LS1 Swap 3.45 Dana 44.
Thanks Steve,
I would have to clearance out my pushrod opening. My engine was made 09AUG99. Topped with L31 Vortec heads. I think that they used a 1/2" drill bit to do that. I will have to find that article.
Sarge |cheers|



GEN III 5.7L "LS6" Engine swap
TKO500 5 spd.
3.54 Dana 44
'69 "N11" Sidepipes
Borgeson Steering Box
Born 8/1981
Sequence #3975




Click here to see more pics of my Vette on CarDomain.


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1.5:1 vs. 1.6:1 Rocker Arms ?????

Posted: 11/1/03 8:23pm Message 8 of 8
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Hi Sarge
They used a die grinder with the heads off to open up the pushrod slots onthe valve side of the head.Labor
intensive but low bucks! Let us know how it works out!
Steve


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