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Re: center-bolt valve cover issue

Posted: 5/1/12 9:40am Message 11 of 25
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Stupid keyboard.....I have a ZZ4 NOT a ZZR in my '78Embarrassed
 
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Re: center-bolt valve cover issue

Posted: 5/1/12 10:00am Message 12 of 25
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Normal positions for most small blocks have the PCV valve at the front on the driver side, and the breather(tube to air cleaner) at the rear on the pass side, with the oil fill at the rear of the driver side.


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Re: center-bolt valve cover issue

Posted: 5/1/12 10:55am Message 13 of 25
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thanks Joel, I needed that.  15 hour day yesterday...looks like a 14 hour day today...AAARRRGGGGHHHWacko.    So my breather on the passenger side (towards the rear) is also the oil fill hole.....that just doesn't sound right does it..."the oil fill hole" (especially towards the rear...can you tell I have been putting in long hours)...ewwww!




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Re: center-bolt valve cover issue

Posted: 5/1/12 3:15pm Message 14 of 25
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Here's a dumb question,why did the General change from the old style 4 bolt system to the top bolt valve covers,I think they are ugly .why mess with somethin that worked for years Thumbs Down


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Re: center-bolt valve cover issue

Posted: 5/1/12 7:19pm Message 15 of 25
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What happened, from my unnerstanding, is the castings on the newer style heads were designed to be thinner/smaller. There really was no room for the casting to support the perimeter style covers. That, and the newer heads had raised, and machined rails for the cover gaskets to seal against. With the sides if the castings raised, and machined, they could get a good seal with the center bolt design without leaks(yeah right...how's that workin out, GM?)...
The really good thing aboot them is you don't have to worry aboot dropping one of the friggin bolts down behind the exhaust manifold anymore....LOL



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Re: center-bolt valve cover issue

Posted: 5/1/12 11:08pm Message 16 of 25
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Vette(s): 1976 Silver/Firethorn. L48, 4spd. Original 2 bolt, vortec heads, 9.4:1 CR, Speed Pro Cam: 224/224@0.050, 112 LSA, Eagle Steel Crank.
VikingVette: thanks for the input.  I knew about the adapters, but I didn't think they were worth it for my L-48 orange jobs.  If I had a set of the finned aluminum ones that would be a different story, but....

Joel: thanks for the explanation about why they went this way.  I was hoping it was to improve the leaking situation, but it sounds like the improvements may not have worked.... I'm going to hope it works out for me.  These guys came with the heads I bought - I was going to toss them but I decided to clean them up, paint, and see what they looked like.  They turned out OK and I actually like the look of the center-bolts.  I'm going to look for some stainless or black replacement bolts for 'em. 

I'm going to do my best to make these leak free, but if that doesn't work out I'll go with a set of finned aluminum covers.  We'll see!




 

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Re: center-bolt valve cover issue

Posted: 5/2/12 2:39am Message 17 of 25
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Dave,
If you have an ACE hardware store near you, they carry a huge selection of chrome and stainless bolt, nuts, washers and caps..  If you do not want the shine, then definately black to make them disappear



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Re: center-bolt valve cover issue

Posted: 5/2/12 7:33am Message 18 of 25
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Yep, I do have an Ace very close to where I live and, believe me, I use that awesome selection of hardware all the time!  Way better than Home Depot.  I'm going to go look at their stainless selection and see if they have anything, but I'm not sure they'll have bolts that long.  I went online last night and found a set of ARP stainless last night for about $22 - that may end up being my best bet.  



 

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Re: center-bolt valve cover issue

Posted: 5/2/12 3:05pm Message 19 of 25
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can't help with the problem just need to know where you obtained the valve covers? at present i want a set like that for a 327 im almost finished with.


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Re: center-bolt valve cover issue

Posted: 5/2/12 4:27pm Message 20 of 25
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annicorvette said: can't help with the problem just need to know where you obtained the valve covers? at present i want a set like that for a 327 im almost finished with.

 

I have a pair (same as the first picture, black) They are from a ZZ4 and I did not use them. Don't know if they will work for you or not.

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