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Crate Engine or heads and cam

Posted: 3/21/07 10:35am Message 11 of 15
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Austin, TX - USA
Joined: 3/27/2006
Posts: 104
Vette(s): 73 coupe bought new in 1973 with only luggage rack, AM/FM radio, HD battery & Maplight as options. L48, 4 speed, Paint Med Met Blue 922 interior Dark saddle 418 special order. Repurchased 4/1/06 after 24 years.
I have a question concerning crate motors.  gmpartsdirect.com lists the LM1 350 engine at 250hp/304ftlb for $1,292, and the HP 290/350 with 290hp/326ftlbs for $1652.  Both need intake, carb, distributor, starter, waterpump, ect.  Anyone know what the difference is in these two engines which accounts fo the 16% increase in HP.  Is it just a different cam, or are the heads different?  Would it be better to buy the LM1 and use the $360 difference to replace the cam, and pocket the difference.
 
John



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Crate Engine or heads and cam

Posted: 3/21/07 12:18pm Message 12 of 15
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Frederick, MD - USA
Joined: 9/8/2003
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Vette(s): 1969 convertible L71 427/435 4-speed black interior
Same head specs...same compression ratio...different camshaft...different crankshaft. Both have 4-bolt mains on the crank. The 290hp has a nodular iron crankshaft (stronger) where the other has a cast crank.

If you buy the LM1 and change the cam, you'll lose the warranty since you modified it.

Depending on your finances, give thought to the 350HO/330hp engine. It gives the most bang for the buck.


Crate Engine or heads and cam

Posted: 3/21/07 4:08pm Message 13 of 15
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SHELBYVILLE, TN - USA
Joined: 7/5/2002
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Vette(s): 1976 L48 auto

1978 L82 4speed

1994 LT1 6speed
I'd gotten my zz4 from Jeg's ... complete engine minus starter/carb/exhaust/etc.... best i recall, was around $3800, but that was 4 years ago...or was it 5?... anyhow i'll paste the specs
 
  • 355 HP @5250 RPM, 405 FT.LBS of Torque @ 3500 RPM (Max. Recommended RPM: 5800)
  • 10.1:1 Compression Ratio
  • Cast Iron 4-Bolt Block with One-Piece Rear Main Seal
  • Forged Steel Crankshaft
  • High Silicon Aluminum Pistons w/Offset Pins
  • PM Steel Connecting Rods
  • Aluminum Angle Plug 58cc Chamber Cylinder Heads w/ 1.94'' Int./ 1.50'' Exh. Valves
  • Steel Hydraulic Roller Cam, Lift: .474'' Int./ .510'' Exh., Duration @ .050: 208° Int./ 221° Exh.
  • 1.5 Ratio Rocker Arms
  • Aluminum Dual Plane Intake Manifold
  • HEI Distributor
  • 8'' High-RPM Torsional Damper
  • Cast Iron Water Pump
  • 12.75'' Flexplate

    Note: Carburetor, spark plug wires, starter, oil filter and oil filter adapter, and exhaust manifolds are not included.




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    Crate Engine or heads and cam

    Posted: 3/22/07 8:47am Message 14 of 15
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    Manteca, CA - USA
    Joined: 11/20/2005
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    Vette(s): 1978,two tone,Metalic Rootbeer & gold 1975 L48 4 speed
    I bought 2 out of 3 of my vettes for less than the price of a ZZ4, but one can't help but lust for an extra 100 + horses under the hood. I'm hoping to go there myself some day, but that much money would buy a lot of improvements on the other cars.


    Crate Engine or heads and cam

    Posted: 3/23/07 6:48am Message 15 of 15
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    Fresno, TX - USA
    Joined: 1/15/2007
    Posts: 240
    Vette(s): 1980 corvette
    well guys im in the same boatUnhappy To start off with the good point, my dad gave me the 80 4speed vette. It has 80,000 miles on the rebuilt motor. I took off the intake to have it polished and looked inside the heads and saw build up around the bottom of the valves, now I want a new motor. Scared to bye allum heads, dont know  if seals will blow. The motor is not smoking or burning oil. should I just ride out the waves untile Im really able to afford a good motor?  


      

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