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Engine HP rated at crank or rear wheels?

Posted: 3/1/04 8:19am Message 1 of 7
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Arlington, TX - USA
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Vette(s): 1979 L48 4 speed British Racing Green. Mostly stock for now.
I have a 1979 L48 which is rated at 195 HP from the factory. Is this measured at the rear wheels or the crank. Yesterday I installed a set of 1.6 roller rockers and noticed a pretty good improvement in performance but also about at 30 degree drop in temperature.

Also does anyone know what heads are on my engine? I'm thinking about swapping them out for a set of modified Vortec's. Any comments or suggestions would be helpful. Thanks |bouncy|


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Engine HP rated at crank or rear wheels?

Posted: 3/1/04 8:41am Message 2 of 7
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Endicott, NY - USA
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Vette(s): 1972 Corvette coupe, unrestored, 155,000 miles. 1995 Corvette 6 speed convertible
After 1971, horsepower ratings were done at the rear wheels....I have a 1972 coupe, and in 1971 the identical setup was rated at 270 horse....my '72 is rated at 200 horse! |frown|


Engine HP rated at crank or rear wheels?

Posted: 3/1/04 10:25am Message 3 of 7
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Welch, MN - USA
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Vette(s): 1974 Black 454 Stingray coupe, turbo 400 tranny, barry grant 750 carb, hooker super competition headers, moves along!
actually, before 1971 horsepower was rated as gross, or horsepower at the flywheel. After 1971, horsepower was rated as net, or horsepower with accessories such as fan, alternator, and power steering. But this is not at the rear wheel, that would be even less yet. A ls4 in 1971 had 330 gross hp, but my 1974 ls4 has 270 net horsepower. Hope this clears things up.


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Engine HP rated at crank or rear wheels?

Posted: 3/1/04 7:34pm Message 4 of 7
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Vette(s): 1972 Corvette coupe, unrestored, 155,000 miles. 1995 Corvette 6 speed convertible
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Engine HP rated at crank or rear wheels?

Posted: 3/1/04 7:50pm Message 5 of 7
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KERNERSVILLE, NC - USA
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Vette(s): 1968 L-71 convertible
Your heads should be casting # 462264
Probably a 1.94 /1.50 valve for a L-48 motor.
If you go to a better haed, you need to look at your cam too. The motor has to breathe!
I've had heads re-machined to accept the bigger valves, just a thought, cheaper than new heads!


Engine HP rated at crank or rear wheels?

Posted: 3/12/04 9:20am Message 6 of 7
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DOWNINGTOWN, PA - USA
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Vette(s): 1969 Monza Red Black Conv / Black Vinal hardtop 454/480 Tremec 5 Speed 308 Posi.Black Leather Interior, PS, PW, Air cond., tilt/tele,AM/FM Cass.-5 Pack CD, Hurst Shifter, side pipes 2004 Yellow convertible with black top and black interior
The way I understood this to be is: gross is measured at the flywheel with no accessories. Net is measured at the flywheel with accessories. Rear wheel is obvious.
My '69 427/390 is listed as gross of 390. The rear wheel was dynoed at 248. In thoery, you loose 15-20% from gross to net and another 15-20% for the drive train.
The exact percents vary with accessories and type and condition of drive train. All new components would be reflected with less of a loss.
I believe it was '72 that companys started rating net (flywheel with accessories) but it might have been in '71.


Engine HP rated at crank or rear wheels?

Posted: 3/12/04 10:37pm Message 7 of 7
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Overland Park, KS - USA
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Vette(s): 1973 Orange Metallic Coupe (orig owner), L82, 4 spd (WR), PS, (A/C & PW (I installed from wrecked 73)), leather, AM/FM Stereo, ran with '65 FI unit earlier & will again some day. 2023 Accelerate Yellow HTC Stingray
It was '71, same time they started dropping comp. ratios to allow use of unleaded gas.

Marc


1973 L-82 4 spd

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