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Re: Engine rattle above 2000 rpm

Posted: 8/27/13 5:13pm Message 31 of 38
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Vette(s): 1975 Corvette 383 stroker w/Patriot 190 heads, Eagle stroker kit, Comp 279TH7 cam, DUI distributor, Edelbrock 7116 intake, Edelbrock 1806 carb, Hedman Hedders, TH400 w/TCI Breakaway 2400 stall, Transgo 1-2 shift kit.
Adams' Apple said: Greg, have you tried cranking it with the plugs out?
Does the distributor rotor turn when you crank it over?
Does the engine oil smell "funky", or like it is burnt?
Do you have access to a bore scope?
It's possible that one(or more) of the wrist pins has worked loose from a rod, and is scraping on a cylinder wall. Not a good thing, for sure.

I'm thinking hard about what you said about the distributor moving, even tho it is tightened down as tight as the clamp will go. Imma wondering if the dadgum distributor itself hasn't taken a dump. Not the electrical part, but an actual mechanical failure...like the gear melting, or the pin on the gear shearing off...or the teeth themselves wearing off.
IF the dist. shaft itself was really tight down in the hole, it could mash the gear up against the oil pump too tight, and also against the boss in the block.

I'm REALLY hoping this isn't a major engine failure. Normally, if a rod, or crank bearing has taken a doo-doo(hi-teck terminology), the oil will smell bad. It also usually will cause the engine coolant temp to go high.
A rod pin coming out will scrape against the cylinder wall, also normally causing a higher than normal coolant temp, and lottsa metal in the oil.

A jumped timing chain will not normally damage any of the valve train parts, unless you have domed pistons, or a really high-lift cam...or rockers that are adjusted way too tight.

I'd really start checking the distributor....see if the rotor will turn with the engine, and that you cannot turn it(the rotor) by hand....

Fingers crossed....

Thanks for the pointers Joel. I haven't turned it over since I bumped the starter a few times to see if it was seized or not. The oil smells OK to me. The temperature never exceeded 190 before this happened. The oil pressure was down but not way down. I don't know anyone with a bore scope. I've got some more work to do with my renovations before I really get into the engine. Soon I hope.




 
Build Date: May 7, 1975. 383 w/267 RWHP/310 RWTQ
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Re: Engine rattle above 2000 rpm

Posted: 8/28/13 5:18am Message 32 of 38
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Check for a cracked crank pulley. I had this happen on one of my vettes. You'll can feel for cracks by putting your hand down there & going around the pulley with your fingers. It will make a noise at a higher RPM's & gradually over time more noise at lower RPM's.
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Re: Engine rattle above 2000 rpm

Posted: 10/12/13 5:01pm Message 33 of 38
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I picked up a 383 stroker the other night from a friend of mine. It's a low mileage engine with aluminum heads and a mild cam. It's a 2 piece seal block from the 70's. I heard it running on a test stand. Good oil pressure and stabile vacuum. It'll get me back on the road for a low price with a bit more oomph. Smile



 
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Re: Engine rattle above 2000 rpm

Posted: 10/13/13 8:33am Message 34 of 38
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Re: Engine rattle above 2000 rpm

Posted: 10/13/13 7:25pm Message 35 of 38
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Re: Engine rattle above 2000 rpm

Posted: 10/13/13 8:17pm Message 36 of 38
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Vette(s): 1975 Corvette 383 stroker w/Patriot 190 heads, Eagle stroker kit, Comp 279TH7 cam, DUI distributor, Edelbrock 7116 intake, Edelbrock 1806 carb, Hedman Hedders, TH400 w/TCI Breakaway 2400 stall, Transgo 1-2 shift kit.
Thanks guys! This will be a good winter project. Look forward to getting her back on the road by spring. The only reason the engine was sold is the car it was in had an interior fire which resulted in an insurance right off. Car had only be on the road this year. Engine was not damaged in the fire and I had it checked out by a local engine builder who gave it the green light.


 
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Re: Engine rattle above 2000 rpm

Posted: 12/11/13 1:32pm Message 37 of 38
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I got a call today from the gentleman that bought my old engine. It was rod knock I was hearing. The #8 rod spun the bearing and their were filings in the #7 journal as well. The front cam bearing was wore down to the copper and what stopped the engine was the nylon cam gear broke and stopped it dead in it's tracks. Only 76,000 miles on it.

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Re: Engine rattle above 2000 rpm

Posted: 12/12/13 11:03am Message 38 of 38
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 Ouch Ouch! Bummer. Well...that's someone else's problem now tho, right? LOL


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