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Re: Engine Shims

Posted: 1/8/13 6:05am Message 11 of 20
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How about BODY Mounts on the frame?  Are they sagging or crushed? Could be some of the low problem on one side.



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Re: Engine Shims

Posted: 1/8/13 7:45am Message 12 of 20
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I just installed new poly mounts, this last weekend Wacko


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Posted: 1/12/13 5:39pm Message 13 of 20
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I had to trim a little bit on both sides when putting them on.

You can also try loosening the rear attachment, then loosen front attachment and try to force down while tightening the front.  Then tighten rear.



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Posted: 2/10/13 5:05pm Message 14 of 20
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I would check ride height left to right and hope it is a spring was the car ever hit up front ?


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Re: Engine Shims

Posted: 2/10/13 10:44pm Message 15 of 20
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tonytheroofer said: I would check ride height left to right and hope it is a spring was the car ever hit up front ?

The more I look at and compare sides I believe it has, but I have no proof, This is my first Vette

I wouldn't think ride height (springs) should effect the fit, or am I thinking of something else?




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Re: Engine Shims

Posted: 2/10/13 10:46pm Message 16 of 20
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73shark said: I had to trim a little bit on both sides when putting them on.

You can also try loosening the rear attachment, then loosen front attachment and try to force down while tightening the front.  Then tighten rear.


are you talking about the mounts?


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Posted: 2/11/13 7:26pm Message 17 of 20
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73shark said: I had to trim a little bit on both sides when putting them on.

You can also try loosening the rear attachment, then loosen front attachment and try to force down while tightening the front.  Then tighten rear.


are you talking about the mounts?


No, I was referring to the side exhaust mounting points.



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Re: Engine Shims

Posted: 2/11/13 8:24pm Message 18 of 20
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Jason, something I have been thinking aboot, but keep fergittin to ask..
When you put the new body mounts on, were there any shims on any of the mount locations? If so, are you certain you got them all back in the correct location? Seems like you had one corner that was way off, but we decided it was because you had the car in the air. I'm just wondering if you don't have a body mount shim that has gone missing, or something crazy like that, that could be causing the clearance issue with the pipes. Of course, it's entirely possible the pipes weren't welded exactly correct to begin with.
Just a couple of errant thoughts.....



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Re: Engine Shims

Posted: 2/11/13 9:40pm Message 19 of 20
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Adams' Apple said: Jason, something I have been thinking aboot, but keep fergittin to ask..
When you put the new body mounts on, were there any shims on any of the mount locations? If so, are you certain you got them all back in the correct location? Seems like you had one corner that was way off, but we decided it was because you had the car in the air. I'm just wondering if you don't have a body mount shim that has gone missing, or something crazy like that, that could be causing the clearance issue with the pipes. Of course, it's entirely possible the pipes weren't welded exactly correct to begin with.
Just a couple of errant thoughts.....


I pulled and left the shims in the same area I took the mounts out of. funny the right side that is fine had very little shims, and the left side that is so low has pretty much 1/4 inch of shims at every mount. and before you ask :) the mounts were pretty corroded and mashed to think they had already been replaced.

the corner that was way off was the drivers far rear, and I did have jack stands in the middle of the car and one up front under the front brace, so the back was just hanging. I guess now that it is on the ground I could recheck that mount.

maybe I'll have to look into checking ride height body and frame. although my garage isnt perfectly level I dont know if I would fine 3/8 of an inch off Wacko
 



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Re: Engine Shims

Posted: 2/12/13 10:57am Message 20 of 20
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Hmmmm....frustrating, to say the least!
I hate to say it, but it is beginning to sound more and more like the car may have been hit somewhere down the line, considering the fan shroud issue, and now this. The only other explanation would be the engine mounts are just not exactly right, for some reason. I'd have to go back and check the thread on the shroud, but was the fan/shroud out of alignment before you did the engine mounts?



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