Hey guys I have been working these past couple of days on a new High Performance engine for under 9K.... YOu guys may make fun of me for using BIG brand names, but hey, I also stick to flashy weel-known names.... Hhere is the list, with summit part numbers:

Block:
World 350CID/5.7L 4.030 BORE (IN) WRL-084011 $2,169.95

Heads:
EdleBROCK Victor Jr. EDL-77589 679.50EA

CrankShaft:
Lunati Sledge Hammer LUN-AF115AN $797.99

CamShaft:
Lunati Hydrolic Flat Tappet LUN-30117 $159.69

Carb:
Demon King GC GPT-8838020GC $749.50

Intake Mmanifold:
Edlebrock Super Victor EDL-2970 $227.95

Roller ROckers / Stand - set:
Harland Sharp Shaft Mount 1.7 Ratio CSP-SLS17 $389.95

Pistons:
K/B Flat Top (Hypereutectic) UEM-KB112030-8 $235.39 (set 8)

DIstributor:
MSD Ready To Run MSD-8360 $297.88

Coil:
MSD BLASTER HVC-2 MSD-8253 $118.88

Ignition:
MSD 7 Series PLUS CD MSD-7520 $564.88

Fuel Pump:
Holley Electric Blue HLY-12-802-1 $107.88

Oil Pump:
Moroso BLue Printed Racing MOR-22112 $93.88

Oil Pan:
Moroso Drang Race MOR-21016  $349.95

Pully:
March Kit MCH-6190 $218.69
March Power Steering MCH-522 $72.95

Air Cleaner:
Chevrolet Proform GM PRO-141-752 $59.88

Valve Covers:
Chvrolet Proform GM PRO-141-131 $129.95

Gasket kit:
Felpro full small block FEL-KS2600 $39.95

Spart plugs:
AC/Delco Rapid Fire 2 LOCAL $36.99 (SET OF 8)

Ignition WIres:
Taylor 10.4MM 409 RAce wires TAY-79229 $99.69

Total: $8,062.18 + S/H

Any help with tweaking, and I would also appreciate it if some one with dyno software can post soem numbers up, with a screen shot, and possiby the PDF output file. THanks guys,

-Louis

new77guy38491.9881712963

Well a few things and these are things you will learn with experience.

That cam while it would work with the engine compression is not very street friendly.  4000-7000 rpm range.

Carburetor is way too big as is the intake.  While they could be made to work you would be so dead on the bottom end you would be frustraited.  There is such a thing as too much air flow.  What happens is you loose the velocity of the air through the engine.

Also You would need a different distributor as the ready to run does not require a 7al.  I would stick to a mechanical advance distributor with a magnetic pickup.  The 7al is a good unit, but over kill for the street. Stick with a 6al or a digital 6.

The 1.7 ratio rockers would not be my first choice.  I would pick a cam and let it do the job instead of using a high lift rocker arm to compensate for a smaller cam.  1.6 is about as large as I would go.  There is such a thing as coil bind on the cylinder head springs.  This where you have to much lift on the cam/lifter combination that you compress the spring so far it binds up.  This can cause major distruction in so many ways I won't even begin to describe each one.

Gaskets - Don't rely on a gasket kit.  You will want to pick out some good MLS head gaskets, performance intake gaskets, oil pan gasket and valve cover gaskets.  The gaskets in those kits are made for basic rebuilds.  Fel Pro makes what they call race kits.  These are the basic pieces minus the head gaskets, intake gaskets, and oil pan gaskets so you can get the good stuff.

Lastly you left out a few things on your list at a quick glance

Lifters, Connection Rods, Push Rods, Main Bearings, Rod Bearings, Oil Pump Pickup, Harmonic Balancer, Flex Plate/Fly Wheel, headers, and all your new engine bolts.

Just so you know i have just about finished my little engine build project.  I have to double check everything on the list, but I have everything included, except for pulleys which I'm not going to include.  I even included headers and right now the total bill is $9038 and the final CID is 421.  This would be a kick butt solid roller street engine making 10.6 compression operating in the 1800 to 6200 rpm range have some really nice parts and my preliminary dyno info shows peak numbers at 557HP, 553 lb ft.  Average numbers are  397 HP and 517 lb ft.  I always prefer to build engines that make better torque numbers because torque is what moves you down the road very quickly.  FYI this engine should operate nicely on 91 ontane this its aluminum heads.

Damn there are things in there I never even heard of! Please master spit in my general vicinity!
Glenn

Hey Glenn, that looks just like the flight line in Rhien Main in Frankfurt where I was flown into when I was injured overseas. I know your address says Japan but.....

Well I think I'm done.  I takes a while to put together an engine combination that is balanced.  In this case trying to keep the cost down, but still have good parts that would be long lived.  I'm sure I left something off the list, but you never catch those things until you start to do a build.  The costs associated are for parts only.  There are no machining costs, or materials included (ie Sealers, Assembly Lubes, Etc.)  It also assumes you have access to the correct tools to do this assembly.  Also realize these dyno numbers are simulated, but these software programs tend to be with in 3 to 5% in either direction of posted numbers from what I have seen.

Here are the Parts and all can be purchased at these prices through Summit.

part	Desc	Price
435038756000	Eagle 4340 Crank 3.875" Stroke	$499
ESP-6000B3D	Eagle 4340 H Beam Rods	$430
11821143	Dart Pro 1 230cc heads 72cc chambers	$1,388
99473	Ross Flat Top Pistons	$562
S0690-30	Total Seal Piston Rings	$172
FEM-125M	Main Bearings STD SBC	$50
FEM-8-7100CH	Rod Bearings STD 2.100" SBC	$52
501b2LUN	Lunati Solid Roller CAM	$280
72402LUN	Lunati solid Roller Lifters	$328
CSP-S4003	Harland Sharp Roller Rocker Arms 1.6 Ratio	$206
300-110	Holley Single Plane Intake	$229
FPP-2702	RACE Gasket Set	$19
FPP-1044	Fel Pro - Head Gasket	$100
FPP-1205	Fel Pro Manifold Gaskets	$14
40100	Milodon Oil pan gasket	$17
SME-7000	Summit Full Roller Timing Set	$72
30908	Milodon Oil Pan	$217
m55HV	Melling Oil pump	$25
18314	Milodon Oil Pump Pickup	$35
6420	MSD 6AL	$230
85551	MSD Ready to Run Distributor	$226
8202	MSD Coil	$35
31233	MSD Wire Set	$88
31131211	Dart Little M Block	$2,306
64210240	Dart cylinder head studs	$89
872021	Pioneer SFI Balancer	$150
399273	TCI 168 tooth flex plate	$69
2134-1HKR	Hooker 1-3/4" headers	$560
0-4781c	850 CFM Double Pump Holley Carb	$466
534-9801	Engine Accessory Bolt kit	$70
68000050	Dart Valve Covers Chrome	$51
		$9,035

Here are the Simulated Dyno Numbers

Here are some final Specs

Engine: 420 CID SBC

10.6:1 Compression

2500 + Stall Required

Optimum Power Range 1800 to 6200

Peak Numbers:  557HP, 553 lb ft

Average Numbers: 397 HP and 517 lb ft.

"Hey Glenn, that looks just like the flight line in Rhien Main in Frankfurt where I was flown into when I was injured overseas. I know your address says Japan but....."

Nope its the port in Okinawa Jp. Have been to  Frankfurt though had a lovely area in the shade of "red" as I recall. Sorry to hear you got hit I was lucky enought to come out with no scratches luck of the draw I guess. Hope you doing OK and if Im ever in the NJ area Ill buy ya a beer
Glenn

Nice Matt, nice..... I like that setup too. I looked at your suggestions, and I decided to tweak a few things. When I'm done, can you simulate some dynos for me? The only thing I want to do is try and do a 6-pack. What would be the safest,a nd best CFM on the carbs to use? The intake, I have no idea?

-Louis

new77guy38493.4521064815

I can if I have complete data to work with to simulate the info.

6-Pack, Cool, but can be a pain to tune and to make work on certain engines.  As far as CFM your limited to what is currently available.  I believe the Center was 350 CFM and the outers were 466 cfm. Thats a large total CFM, but what made it driveable is the fact that most of the time you were driving around on the center carb.  The outers were Vacuum Secondary Operated and would only come in when the venturii velocity was enough to start them opening.

At one time about 7 or 8 years back, Holley had an all mechanical 6 pack set up available for the drag racers.  Cool setup, but had to be one stout engine for a street setup.

CFM if dependant on the engine and intended use.  While there is a readily used formula and it works for most people when they are first learning there is some other factors that should be considered and those are learned from years of experience.

three dueces looks cool..  but ive never seen a multi carb setup that wasnt outperformed by a single carb of the same CFM

remember folks..  the mighty L-88/ZL-1 used a single 4BBL

not the three deuces of its L-71 little brother...

[QUOTE=Flemgunner]

Nope its the port in Okinawa Jp. Have been to  Frankfurt though had a lovely area in the shade of "red" as I recall. [/QUOTE]

 I'm shocked that you know about K-strasse.

  Lived in Germany for 17 of my 22 years....need I say more.