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High idle on 82CE

Posted: 2/6/07 7:15am Message 1 of 15
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Got the stock CF setup.Just the last few days it has started to idle high(1200)rpm.It will settle back down after driving for what seems 45 min.I'm thinking TPS?If this is so,How much $$ for the TPS and how hard is it to install?Thanks again.Wink zgator2007-02-06 07:16:56


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High idle on 82CE

Posted: 2/6/07 8:34am Message 2 of 15
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El-Cheapo TPS can be had for as little as $60.00 or so from your local parts house, the Delco ones are going to run you somewhere in the neighborhood of $125.00 or so.  Installing isn't too bad but a code reader or multi-meter is required to set it properly and it has a very small tolerence to work properly. A 1982 service manual will give you the settings and if you dont have one, I can look it up and send it to you.  On your crossfire system, the problem could also be from the Idle Air Controllers (IAC) that screw into the front of each throttle body.  If the plunger isnt working properly (or the ECM compter is giving it wrong information) it won't adjust the proper amount of air into the throttle body.  If you have done any work in the area of the throttle bodies, check the connections to each IAC and to the TPS. I had the same  problem about a year ago with my crossfire and found that it was a ground problem.  There are grounds on the top of the intake and I believe two big grounds under the chassis, one to the passengers side of the transmission and another main ground under the battery.  Check and clean any grounds that don't look good, a bad gound can affect how the ECM operates.  Cleaning the grounds solved my problem.  DO NOT attempt to adjust the idle screws on the throttle bodies unless you REALLY know how to do it... that's why they were welded in place and capped at the factory.  One reason that crossfire got a bad rep was "mechanics" trying to adjust and balance the throttle bodies without knowing how to do it.  It can be done but there is a proper procedure for doing it, I have a link somewhere if you need it but it AINT real simple to do.  If you suspect an IAC is bad, you can buy or borrow one, ($50.00 - $100.00, depending on make) and swap it from one throttle body to the other, they are interchangable. The chances of both of them going bad at the same time is almost non-existent.    Be careful inserting the IAC onto the throttle body, being careful not to damage the seat inside of the TB, IACs are cheap, throttle bodies are notCry.  The same IAC that fits your car fits lots of GM cars and is readily available so a mechanic friend may have one laying around you could test with. A code reader can tell you what the ECM is telling the IAC to do but it can't tell you if the IAC is actually doing what it's told.  The connection for the code reader is under the ash tray, pull the ash tray out and it's staring at you.............long answer to a short question.  I'd be interested if other 82 owners have had this same problem and how they handled it. Confused




High idle on 82CE

Posted: 2/6/07 9:51am Message 3 of 15
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Great info!!!.I do have a 1982 shop manual and assy manual.Does the fact that the idle will go down to normal after driving a while suggest anything.Nobodys been around the IAC's.This just started a week ago.You ask me if I had a service manual.I might have but if not will the shop manual provide me with the same info?Thanks for the quick reply and all that info.Very helpfull!!!!Thumbs%20Up


High idle on 82CE

Posted: 2/6/07 10:16am Message 4 of 15
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shop manual gives lots of info on each component and the settings for the TPS.... I think the shop manual is indispensable.  Shop manual does have procedure for balancing the throttle bodies.


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My idle will oscillate between 1200 and 800 RPM when I first start up. After about 10 seconds it settles down at around 800 RPM.

Is this normal?
 
And what is a TPS?
 



 
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High idle on 82CE

Posted: 2/6/07 11:01am Message 6 of 15
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Dave, I hope so... mine does the same thing then settles down to about 700 - 800.  As long as it settles down after a few seconds Im happy.


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The TPS is the throttle posishing(sp) Sensor.Man I buchered that wordRolling%20On%20The%20Floor%20Laughing


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Be sure to check for vacuum leaks as well, I dont know why a leak would stop leaking after a few minutes of running , but a vacuum leak will give a high idle as well.




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Posted: 2/6/07 4:50pm Message 9 of 15
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Yeah,thats why a vac. leak didn't come to mind.After a few min driving it's fine.I'm stil thinking TPS.Anymore ideas or afermation of my digonious and I'll go from there.


High idle on 82CE

Posted: 2/6/07 4:53pm Message 10 of 15
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If you have a scanner to see what all the sensors are doing , that would help, it's hard to trouble shoot the problem without tools!
You may have a coolant temp. sensor going bad.
Is the thermostat working? You have to warm up the engine fast enough to get it into closed loop ( puter) to work right.
Low coolant level?
 
Good luck, let us know what's going on. Hope I helped a little.
 
Denny



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