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Is this a bogus LT-1 engine?

Posted: 3/21/07 5:32pm Message 1 of 22
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Palmyra, PA - USA
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Vette(s): 1970 Vette Convertible, driver 1981 Vette, driver
My 1970 vette has a 1977 engine...not my choice for the engine but I got what I got.  I knew the engine was NOM when I purchased the car.  I have found a 1970 engine that the engine owner says is an LT-1 with 4,000 miles on the motor.  I would like to make contact with someone who can give me advice on engine numbers and suffix and the economics of spending the extra money for the LT-1 engine.  The suffix for this engine is XCD.  This engine was never in a Corvette but was purchased over the counter from a GM dealer in 1970, again, as the owner says.
 
Thanks for you advice.



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Is this a bogus LT-1 engine?

Posted: 3/21/07 6:04pm Message 2 of 22
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Vette(s): 1976 L48 auto

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Well..... i cant find a "XCD" suffix... did find a "XC"  which came up as a 1969 Camaro     
XC 1969 350 255hp 4bolt Powerglide
 
as for casting numbers... well...  here's a link to a website with all that good stuff
 
 
good luck hunting...



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Is this a bogus LT-1 engine?

Posted: 3/21/07 6:12pm Message 3 of 22
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I found two "XCD" suffixes...one is a 350 truck engine for 1999 rated at 255hp. The other is listed simply as a 350 crate engine...no further information.

Crate engines are built to varying levels of tune using the same block. No telling what that engine is without more information from it.

No way of proving it's an original LT-1 from 1970 unless someone can find information linking that suffix code to LT-1's. It could be built to LT-1 specs possibly.


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Posted: 3/21/07 6:35pm Message 4 of 22
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According to the NCRS Pocket Spec Guide the Engine codes for 1970 LT1s were CTU and CTK. The CTK was new to 1970. Both  were 350ci,370hp, 4 barrel Holly carb, mechanical lifters and T/I ignition.

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Is this a bogus LT-1 engine?

Posted: 3/21/07 7:00pm Message 5 of 22
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Vette(s): had a really nice one. sold it to a good friend. Purchased 2004 custom coupe in Feb. 2009 did not tell anyone here until August 2009. BAD I KNOW.
the other thing to remember is that thier was only about 1243 lt-1 install in all of the 70 vettes.


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Posted: 3/22/07 2:20pm Message 6 of 22
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Vette(s): 1971, LT-1, T-top, 4-speed (M21), Mulsanne Blue, 3.70 rear, mostly original (sidepipes). 2006, Daytona Sunset Orange Coupe.
The LT-1 engine was also used in the Z28 Camaros.


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Posted: 3/23/07 9:47am Message 7 of 22
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Savannah, GA - USA
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Vette(s): 1982CE,32,000 and counting. (fast!!) 1981 Vette, black on black. ZZ4 (quick!!)
For the Z's I think it was CTC or CTK.One being auto the other a 4 speed.I shouid know this by heart,I've only had 5 of them!!! Those cars were so much fun.I'd be crusing around in second gear right about 3000rpm(The sweet spot)then jump on it and scare the carp out of the guy next to me.zgator2007-03-23 09:49:21


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Posted: 3/23/07 10:53am Message 8 of 22
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One way to tell if it is from a Vette is to look at the partial VIN.  It will have the "S" for St. Louis.  If it from a Camaro it will have a "V" for Van Nuys or an "N" for Norwood.    Look at the rear of the block to get the casting date.  If it is a 4 bolt main 3970010 casting with a casting date between December of 1969 and August of 1970, it could be an LT1.  The partial VIN would tell the tale if it hasn't been restamped. 




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Posted: 3/23/07 11:45am Message 9 of 22
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David,
I'm curious now how the above advice worked out for you. Let us know!



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Is this a bogus LT-1 engine?

Posted: 3/29/07 6:21pm Message 10 of 22
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Hello to all who replied to my question...been out of town...sorry about the slow reply.  Your collective responses are helpful.  For now, I've decided to back off buying this engine.  My restoration project has a way to go before I'm pressed for the engine.  I'm certain that I'll have other restoration questions as this project goes forward.
 
One reply mentioned that there were a limited number of LT-1's.  Can I tell from the VIN number if it is an original LT-1 car?  In the area behind the gear shift lever is a data plate, but the data plate is well worn.  From what I can determine, the data plate says 370 HP.  It would be helpful if I had a build sheet, but I'm not certain where or it one is available.  Any suggestions?



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