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Re: L36 Engine cam replacement

Posted: 11/5/13 9:20am Message 11 of 65
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The time has come to start with the cam replacement. My mechanic is going to pull the engine and start the process. While the engine is out I am going to have the engine gone through and other items addressed while the engine is out. Take care of everything at one time. Hopefully it all goes smoothly. 


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Re: L36 Engine cam replacement

Posted: 11/5/13 10:18am Message 12 of 65
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Re: L36 Engine cam replacement

Posted: 11/14/13 8:59pm Message 13 of 65
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The engine overhaul process has begun.  While I have the engine out I want to clean up and coat the exhaust maifolds.  Looking for some feedback on what type of coating to use.  Spray can paint them myself or have it done by professional ?




Re: L36 Engine cam replacement

Posted: 12/17/13 11:25am Message 14 of 65
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When I bought my 1969 427 390 hp  it was equipped with a Holley Double pumper spread bore carb.  I have been looking at different web sites and reading books and I see that the engine could have been equipped with a Holley or a Rochester q jet carb.   any thoughts? 




Re: L36 Engine cam replacement

Posted: 12/17/13 2:03pm Message 15 of 65
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Here is some info you might like..
    The 1969 ZL1 version of the 427 engine was developed primarily for Can-Am racing, where it was very successful in cars like the Chaparral 2F and McLaren M8B. The ZL1 had specifications nearly identical to the production L88 version of the 427, but featured an all-aluminum cylinder block in addition to aluminum cylinder heads, which dropped total engine weight into small block Chevy territory (approx. 575 lb or 261 kg dressed).[citation needed] The engine was also fitted with the new open combustion chamber cylinder heads, a light weight aluminum water pump, a camshaft that was slightly "hotter" than the L88's and a specially tuned aluminum intake manifold. Like the L88, the ZL1 required 103 octane RON (minimum) fuel, used an unshrouded radiator and had poor low speed idle qualities - all of which made the two engines largely unsuitable for street use. [102 octane RON (Sunoco 260) represented the highest octane gasoline sold at common retail stations.]

As impressive as the ZL1 was in its day and despite the "larger than life legends" surrounding it, actual engine dyno tests of a certified production line stock ZL1 revealed 376 SAE net HP, with output swelling to 524 Gross HP with the help of optimal carb. and ignition tuning, open long tube racing headers and with no power sapping engine accessories or air cleaner in place. ZL1 DYNO TEST - COPO CAMARO WEBSITE A second engine dyno test conducted on a second production line stock (but recently rebuilt and partially blueprinted) ZL1 revealed nearly identical figures for the various "Gross" conditions.[7]

Period magazine tests of the ZL1 were quite rare due to the rarity of the engine itself. "High Performance Cars" tested a production line stock but well tuned example and recorded a 13.1 second/110 MPH quarter mile, which correlates quite well with the previously referenced 376 Net HP figure. "Super Stock and Drag Racing Magazine" recorded an 11.62 second/122.15 MPH quarter mile in a ZL1 Camaro that was professionally tuned and driven by drag racing legend Dick Harrell, although that car was also equipped with open long tube S&S equal length headers, drag slicks and minor suspension modifications. Using Patrick Hale's Power/Speed formula, the 122.15 MPH trap speed indicated low 11 second ET potential (e.g. with larger drag slicks) and suggested something on the order of 495 "as installed" HP in that modified configuration. This large difference in power suggests that the OEM exhaust manifolds and exhaust system were highly restrictive in the ZL1 application, as was also the case with the similar L88..Sal C



Re: L36 Engine cam replacement

Posted: 12/18/13 3:48am Message 16 of 65
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Data you might be interested in having.. Sal C

69 VetteBase 350L46 350L36 427L36/L68 427L71 427L88 427
HP @ RPM300 @ 4800350 @ 5800390 @ 5400400 @ 5400435 @ 5800430 @ 5800
Torque @ RPM380 @ 3200380 @ 3600460 @ 3600460 @ 4000460 @ 4000550 @ 4000
Compression Ratio10.25:111:110.25:110.25:111:112.5:1
Bore & Stroke4.00 x 3.484.00 x 3.484.251 x 3.764.251 x 3.764.251 x 3.764.251 x 3.76
Cylinder BlockCast IronCast IronCast IronCast IronCast IronCast Iron
Main Bearings555555
Valve LiftersHydraulicHydraulicHydraulicHydraulicMechanicalMechanical
Carburetion4bbl Rochester4bbl Rochester4bbl Rochester3x2bbl Holley3x2bbl HolleyLarge 4bbl Holley
Intake ManifoldCast Alloy IronCast Alloy IronAlloy AluminumAlloy AluminumAlloy AluminumAlloy Aluminum
Oil Capacity5qts w/filter5qts w/filter6qts w/filter6qts w/filter6qts w/filter6qts w/filter
ExhaustDual, 2.0"Dual, 2.0"Dual, 2.0"Dual, 2.0"Dual 2.0"Dual 2.0"
Spark PlugsACR44SACR44SACR43NACR43NACR43NACR43XL
 



Re: L36 Engine cam replacement

Posted: 12/24/13 9:45am Message 17 of 65
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Thanks for the info


Re: L36 Engine cam replacement

Posted: 12/27/13 11:25am Message 18 of 65
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Vette(s): 1969 427/390 Sport Coupe *Stored since 1984*
Curious which cam you decided to go with?
 
I have the same engine (1969 L36) and am in the process of reassembling my engine after a stock rebuild. I ordered a Comp Cams Magnum 280H and as I try to decide if the stock springs are going to work with this cam and it's 0.520 valve lift, I am having second thoughts. I have new lifters, pushrods, timing set and the heads were done with new bronze guide inserts, valves, stem seals, etc. The existing cam is OK according to bench measurements of lift but I am tempted to give it a bit of a lopey idle...
 
BTW the carb was originally a Rochester Quadrajet 7029215 EH. They are extremely difficult to find an original because they were a one year carb and only used a few cars including the Corvette L36 with Manual Transmission. There are many carbs that are very similar and it is not too hard to have one rebuilt with the correct metering/calibration to match the 7029215 EH.
 
Photo below is current state of assembly with my son doing all the hard work and me supervising, as it should be.
 


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Re: L36 Engine cam replacement

Posted: 1/9/14 1:25pm Message 19 of 65
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Thanks for the information. My engine is still being rebuilt. Hopefully next week I will get it back from machine shop??  When I bought the car it had the Holley carb. The original rochester is long gone. It would have been nice to have it.


Re: L36 Engine cam replacement

Posted: 1/24/14 8:21pm Message 20 of 65
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My L36  engine is finally ready to go back in the car.  New Comp cam and rocker arms and timing chain. new pistons.  The machine shop went through the entire engine and they did a great job. The aluminum manifold needed some work. The mechainic explained how important it is to keep a check on the antifreeze condition. My manifold had some pitting and small cracks.  He told me to check the PH level of the antifreeze. I will get a PH test kit and monitor my system. 


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