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Posted: 12/10/07 8:44pm Message 1 of 10
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fortlauderdale, FL - USA
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Vette(s): 1978 greenwood custom vette, 468 blower motor side pipes.
Anyone use a mini starter for their car? I tried to put one in a few months ago but could not get it to shim properly. It always seemed like the starter and flywheel were binding. What do I need to know if I want to try this again. Not sure how many teeth I have on my flywheel. Any direction appreciated.Smile



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Posted: 12/10/07 9:30pm Message 2 of 10
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Gloucester, VA - USA
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Vette(s): 1979 T-Top, Metallic Green ZZ4 350/355 hp 405 ft/lbs torque Dual Spal Fans 700R4 4 Spd O/D Transmission 2004 Z06 Commemorative Edition
I have one. Took me a few tries to get it right.  Mine has two ways to install it. I had to change some screws around to make it fit right. Used the included shims.


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Posted: 12/10/07 9:38pm Message 3 of 10
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Yelm, WA - USA
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Vette(s): 1979 L82 4 speed Scat 383 crank 190 cc Procomp Aluminum Heads 202 160 stainless valves GM Powder metal rods Speedpro H860CP Hypereutectic pistons 280 cam hydralic HEI Pro comp 1.6 roller rockers Mighty Demon 750 Sanderson CC1AP Hedders.
I didn't need any shims for mine, and it came with an install sheet with some tips for installing it, measuring tips and what not. I'll try to find it when I clean my garage up here in a couple of days.


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Posted: 12/10/07 11:35pm Message 4 of 10
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Vette(s): 1980 with a Banks Twin Turbo 1969 Convert Big Block 1996 Grand Sport Convert
  I have had one for a Long Time probably 15 Years or more. It is not the popular Tildon Style but the GM Performace sold in the Cataloge. I beleive this Starter first Showed up in about 84 with the C4. Mine is now on its 3rd Engine Block and I have never done anything other than bolt it on. My original Starter had a Shim under it so I used it with this one but with my Last Block I left it out and its working just Fine. It saves a lot of Weight. Richard......


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Posted: 12/11/07 7:28am Message 5 of 10
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Vette(s): 1978 greenwood custom vette, 468 blower motor side pipes.
Is there a noticeable difference in the way the engine turns over, or is it simply a weight saving alternative ?



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Posted: 12/11/07 11:37am Message 6 of 10
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Yelm, WA - USA
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Vette(s): 1979 L82 4 speed Scat 383 crank 190 cc Procomp Aluminum Heads 202 160 stainless valves GM Powder metal rods Speedpro H860CP Hypereutectic pistons 280 cam hydralic HEI Pro comp 1.6 roller rockers Mighty Demon 750 Sanderson CC1AP Hedders.
I should correct myself, I have a high torque starter I'm not sure if it could be called a "mini" bit it is about a 1/2 the size of the stock starter and a lot lighter. I didn't want lazy cranking or premature failure issues with the the 383 motors higher compression.    


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Posted: 12/11/07 11:30pm Message 7 of 10
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Vette(s): 1980 with a Banks Twin Turbo 1969 Convert Big Block 1996 Grand Sport Convert
   I beleive that they do have a bit more toque than a convenional starter. Because the smaller motor is Gear driven they sound like they are Turning the Engine faster but its probably just the starter Motor going faster. I have a Low Compression Engine as I see You do to so I'm not testing them much. Richard......


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Posted: 12/12/07 6:22pm Message 8 of 10
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Huntsville, AL - USA
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Vette(s): 1971 convertible,375 HP 350ci,Muncie 4-speed,Edelbrock aluminum heads and RPM air-gap manifold,HEI distrubiter - old school mechanical tach drive. LOUD side exhaust!
I have one on mine - no problems.Thumbs%20Up


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Posted: 12/23/07 9:45am Message 9 of 10
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I've had one for about 3 years with no problems. The big thing is clearance (after making sure the number of teeth on your flywheel/flexplate match the starter you're using). You also should check your flywheel/flex plate teeth for burrs caused by the old starter.  With starter gear engaged, clearance is right when you can just slip a wire (a large paperclip will do) easily between the high part of a starter gear lobe and the valley between two flexplate/flywheel lobes. 


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Posted: 12/23/07 2:25pm Message 10 of 10
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Vette(s): 1976 L48 4-spd, Mahogany Metalic exterior, Buckskin interior 350ci/350hp, 3rd owner, fiberglass spring, 255/50-16's Torq-Thrust II
I just bought the GM mini starter but need to get the flywheel before I can set it up. Sure is a lot smaller than the stock one.


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