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Posted: 3/23/06 8:58pm Message 1 of 24
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Vette(s): 1970 stingray, t-top, mulsanne blue with black interior, 406 ci with 444 hp, racing suspension, hooker headers/sidepipes - SOLD :(

okay so my supercharger idea is on hold at the moment, in favor of researching a Banks twin turbo setup.  (strange, haven't I been here before?)  anyway.  The system is very compact...but I still would not mind some advice on gaining more room inside the engine bay, specifically on the sides the engine, where the turbos will be mounted.  Here's a few pictures of the setup.

http://www.bankspower.com/Twin-Turbo-images/TT-Manifolds-lg. jpg

http://www.bankspower.com/Twin-Turbo-images/TwinTurbosystem- lg.jpg

http://www.bankspower.com/Twin-Turbo-images/TT-AccelDFI-lg.j pg

(unsure at this point if I need to buy that EFI package from Banks or if I can just use a different one, like Edelbrock or Holley)

http://www.bankspower.com/Twin-Turbo-images/52chevy-Engine-l g.jpg

Their website claim is that an intercooler wouldn't be needed up to an 800 horsepower output, but I don't know how much I believe that.  My goal is around 650.  Also, does anyone think those turbos are a little big for a small block?  I got that remark from a friend of mine.




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Posted: 3/24/06 2:10am Message 2 of 24
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Vette(s): 1970 stingray, t-top, mulsanne blue with black interior, 406 ci with 444 hp, racing suspension, hooker headers/sidepipes - SOLD :(

I am particularly concerned with the passenger side...that AC compressor is HUGE and takes up WAYYYY too much room

http://www.c3vr.com/member_uploads/6601_6700/6623/engine%20b ay.jpg

 

 




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Posted: 3/24/06 8:34am Message 3 of 24
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Vette(s): 350/350 T-top 1970 Cortez silver -blue interior

Can you put turbos on a atmosfheric car with "stock" compression ? Or do you need low compression pistons ???? Or is the turbo pressure adjustable ? because i think with pump gas the max will be 12:1 end compression before detonation ....

just a tought.

Norbert




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Posted: 3/24/06 11:21am Message 4 of 24
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Vette(s): 1970 stingray, t-top, mulsanne blue with black interior, 406 ci with 444 hp, racing suspension, hooker headers/sidepipes - SOLD :(
not difficult at all to change the compression.  cometic gaskets might be able to lower it enough...if not, I can swap pistons and head.


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Posted: 3/24/06 4:52pm Message 5 of 24
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Vette(s): 1970 stingray, t-top, mulsanne blue with black interior, 406 ci with 444 hp, racing suspension, hooker headers/sidepipes - SOLD :(
okay, is there a map or diagram somewhere of a general under-the-hood view of a 1970, that labels the various parts?  I feel stupid right now.


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Posted: 3/24/06 7:05pm Message 6 of 24
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Vette(s): 1970 stingray, t-top, mulsanne blue with black interior, 406 ci with 444 hp, racing suspension, hooker headers/sidepipes - SOLD :(

alright, I did a little bit of measuring, and I don't think I should have any problems on the top of the engine.  on the driver side, the steering box is in the way...I've got roughly 4 and 1/2 inches from the side of the block where the headers mount...and the side of the box.  I don't know if that's enough room or not.  However...looking at the steeroids kit, it appears to eliminate that steering box.  That would free up some room, definitely...so...DOES it? from this Vette Magazine article I just read, I really think it does, but it says this bracket mounts in the same place as the old box...will switching to the steeroids kit provide me with more room on the driver side of the block in order to mount that turbo?

also, what is that huge black box on the passenger side underneath that vacuum actuator.  That's getting in the way, but there's a little more room on that side.

and is there a smaller AC compressor I can install in place of that HUGE long thing?

Really would appreciate the help, guys.




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Posted: 3/24/06 8:26pm Message 7 of 24
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Yeah man,My 78 has the short stubby style compressor ,as far as I know you can probably swap yours out for a short one.as for your turbo problem,I was watching "Two Guys Garage "a couple of months ago,they were putting a Turbo on a newer compact car,not a "ricer",and there wasn't enough room under the hood for it,they came up with a kit to mount the turbo under the rear of the car in front of the muffler,then just run the tubing under the car back up to the motor.it was a real slick install the guy had his turbo ,and all the benefits of it without loosing engine compartment room,it came back to me when I read your thread.I am sure some body else in here might have seen the show,maybe they remember who made the kit,just my $.02


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Posted: 3/24/06 10:28pm Message 8 of 24
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I've seen a similar kit...but that kit also increases turbo lag to disgusting levels.


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Posted: 3/25/06 12:15pm Message 9 of 24
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haha. Than you'r back to option supercharger !  


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Posted: 3/25/06 4:21pm Message 10 of 24
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well I SHOULD have room on the driver side.  It's the AC compressor on the passenger side, and that black box, that's getting in the way.  the black box...I dunno, maybe be able to do somethin.  The AC compressor...hopefully get a smaller one, and do some kind of custom mount?  Move it over toward the fender a little more?


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