Topic: more room under the hood!
in Forum: C3 Engines

[QUOTE=Gale Banks 80]Hello, I might be of some Help as I have had a Banks Twin Turbo in my 1980 since 1988. Soon after they stoped producing this Kit and went with the Diesel Truck stuff and now that the Big Three are producing better Diesels there Sales are off so they have re-envented there old Gasoline stuff. I'm in the Process of Modernising my Whole Car and Updating the Engine as well. Forget about the AC problem as there Kit uses a Serpintine Belt and a Small AC Compressor that is produced by Vintage Air. The Vintage Air Kit Bolts Right in to a C3 with No Clearance Problems at all and works very well on a C3 with or with out the Turbo Setup. The only Clearance problem I had was the wastegate is in the way of the Power Steering Tank on the Pump so I had to remote mount it. Keep in mind if You got it from Banks they would allready of worked this out. The other Clearance problem is going to be with the Hood. The Accel Manifold is Tall and no way is it going under. I'm using an original Edelbrock Torker (What Banks Supplied with the old Carb Kit) and I have Machined about 1/2" off the Top to get it under a Low Rise Turbo Hood. I now have the Accel Manifold and will be Using it with my New Engine I have built but that not going till the end of Summer.It might go under a High Rise Turbo Hood. Don't even consider a Carberator on this setup. The best thing that has ever happened to a Turbocharged Engine in the last 20 Years is the ECM. GM hasn't produced a Carberated Engine since 1986. They say that a Carb is nothing but a controled Fuel Leak but on a Blow through System its nothing but a Out of Control Fuel Leak. This was the downfall of the original setup it would run great on a Dyno but not on the Street. As far as other Fuel Injection Brands the Accel is the only way to go as You will need to set the Fuel Curve up to match Your Combination wich cannot be done with the less exspensive brands. My Engine made or Lost 140 HP with Plus or Minus 1.5 degs of Timing. From now on that is all controled by the ECM. I think that if You purchase everything that comes in the Banks Kit seperately that You will find that Your not going to save much at all. Its not Cheap. Also keep in mind that Cars with Staight Axel Rear Ends are ment for Drag Racing and there for Superchargers are Ok but Cars with Independant Rears are ment for Roadracing and that means Turbocharging. Hope this Helps. Richard...[/QUOTE]
I will definitely look in to this, and the prices as well...I know that the Banks system is far more pricey than the others out there, but I think that I'll have better luck making it fit with those smaller manifolds, and the way everything bolts up. As I said, I'm switching over to an L88 style hood, no carb, definitely EFI (I want that impeccable throttle response), and if I need to, I can have it altered to raise it up another inch or so. I also think that Banks would be my best bet to avoid using an intercooler. Do you have an Intercooler on your setup, Richard?
Also, Tumarr, I realize this will be more spendy than most, but I think that in the long run, it will be the best way for me to go. It just may take me awhile to save up the cash. I'm really torn here, I don't want to spent a TON of money when I could get the same results for much cheaper...I just want to make sure it's done right, and done the best it can possibly be done. I don't want any problems once I've got it all done.
Mike
My old Stingray...sure do miss it:
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Oh yeah, the details on the Banks kit says ah..."Fuel injection system, ignition, throttle body and front drive system are sold separately." Would you guys recommend getting all of it from Banks, then?
Mike
My old Stingray...sure do miss it:
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Anytime you buy a complete package from one source, you are less likely to run into problems when you put it together. They have already worked that out.
But if you want to mix and match to save some money, that's okay as well, but it takes more research to make sure everything fits, and it's probably going to be more work to modify and install.