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Posted: 7/8/08 6:22pm Message 11 of 34
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CUYAHOGA FALLS, OH - USA
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Vette(s): 1975 C3 Red, T-Tops, Black Interior. All I need is time and money! Getting there!
I recently became very upset just for these reason.  Why recently?   My parts store where Iwork part time dropped Exxon Super Flo.
 
I have used this for years, and it has done an excellent job.  But they dropped this "old" oil from the shelves.
 
Really ticked me off.   Now I have to find it, or start my research/testing over again.



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Posted: 7/8/08 7:27pm Message 12 of 34
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I've been using the Rotella which was suggested by 2 NCRS Mechanics (brothers) that I go to.  My car runs good, so I'm a believer..........Big%20smile


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Posted: 7/9/08 8:33am Message 13 of 34
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Vette(s): 1969 COUPE CORTEZ SILVER, BRIGHT BLUE INTERIOR 383 cu. in. 512 HP. Hooker headers w/ side pipes PS PS AC AM FM STEREO. 68,000.MILES C5 5oth Anniversary Coupe , auto.350hp
SINCE I USE CASTROL GTX... I FIGURED IF IT`S GOOD ENOUGH FOR JOHN FORCE IT`S GOOD ENOUGH FOR ME...  I HAVE SUBMITTED THIS QUESTION OF ADDITIVES AND FRICTION TO CASTROL TECH. I`LL REPORT THERE ANSWER WHEN I RECEIVE IT. I HAVE ALOT OF $$$$ IN THIS ENGINE AND WANT TO USE THE BEST LUBRICANTS I CAN TO PROTECT IT.


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Posted: 7/9/08 1:56pm Message 14 of 34
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Vette(s): 1978,two tone,Metalic Rootbeer & gold 1975 L48 4 speed
We'll very much appreciate your sharing Bob. I'm a Castrol guy all the way, and trying to read and comprehend all the oil info out there puts me to sleep Sleepy.


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Posted: 7/9/08 8:53pm Message 15 of 34
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Vette(s): 1976 L48 4-spd, Mahogany Metalic exterior, Buckskin interior 350ci/350hp, 3rd owner, fiberglass spring, 255/50-16's Torq-Thrust II
I run Castrol GTX in many of my vehicles too. Have been running it for many years


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Posted: 7/10/08 8:02am Message 16 of 34
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Vette(s): 1969 COUPE CORTEZ SILVER, BRIGHT BLUE INTERIOR 383 cu. in. 512 HP. Hooker headers w/ side pipes PS PS AC AM FM STEREO. 68,000.MILES C5 5oth Anniversary Coupe , auto.350hp
HERE IS THE RESPONSE FROM CASTROL....

Thank you for contacting Castrol.

 

The latest API SM/ILSAC GF-4 category calls for reduced Zinc and Phosphorus levels to allow extended catalyst life in current model vehicles. There appear to be field issues associated with the SM/GF-4 oil's level of anti-wear in the classic car engines known as flat tappet cam engines.  The current late model passenger car engines are not flat tappet cam engines and have no reported field issues related to the level of anti-wear chemistry in the SM/GF-4 oils.

 

To clarify, in general, ZDDP levels have been reduced a small amount in the current category engine oils (API SM/ILSAC GF-4) in compliance with industry regulations that set maximum levels of Sulphur and Phosphorus, but are still at levels that provide ample engine protection.

 

As indicated on our product packaging, the current engine oil category API SM/ILSAC GF-4 is fully backwards compatible or ‘back serviceable’ and has been extensively tested. Valve train issues are not anticipated with the use of modern engine oil in older cars of OEM stock configuration. In fact, current SM/GF-4 engine oils are subjected to testing that is far more intensive than engine oils of previous API/ILSAC categories.

 

Castrol is aware of articles in enthusiast magazines and web-sites, as well as after-market parts manufacturer discussions concerning GF-4 engine oils and cam-shaft durability issues in older performance vehicles. Some consumers suspect the lower level of ZDDP in GF-4 oils may be causing these failures. Castrol is currently investigating this issue.

 

For those consumers that wish not to use a GF-4 oil in these vehicles, Castrol does offer the following products that contain Zinc at a level that is typical of the Zinc level found in oils (API SG) marketed during the "muscle car" era of time.

                

The following Castrol products have Zinc levels that are typical of API SG oil:

 

1.  Castrol Syntec 20W-50 (NEWLY FORMULATED classic oil formula – see link to website below for information on our new 20W-50 product)

2.  Castrol Syntec 5W-40

 

http://www.castrol.com/castrol/genericarticle.do?categoryId=82915470&contentId=7032644

 

Castrol Consumer Relations

 


From: STARRYDOG1@AOL.COM [mailto:STARRYDOG1@AOL.COM]
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 11:29 AM
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Subject: CastrolUSA - Expert Advice Form Data

 

Subject: CastrolUSA - Expert Advice Form Data

 

 

Dear Online Customer Service,

DATE:

7/9/2008 11:29:00 AM

TITLE:

 

FIRST NAME:

BOB

LAST NAME:

MONAGHAN

EMAIL:

STARRYDOG1@AOL.COM

CATEGORY:

Gasoline Engine Oil

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INQUIRY DETAILS:

i HAVE BEEN USING CASTROL GTX 10W 30W IN MY HP 69 CORVETTE. RECENTLY I HAVE HEARD THAT TODAYS FORMULAS ARE NOT THE SAME AS YEARS AGO AND THAT THERE ARE LESS ADDITIVES THAT AID AGAINST FRICTION. ALTHOUGH I CHANGE MY OIL AT 1000 MILES, THIS CONCERNS ME AS I HAVE SPENT ALOT OF $$$ BUILDING MY ENGINE AND WANT TO USE THE BEST LUBRICANTS TO PROTECT IT. PLEASE ADVISE AS TO THE ACCURACY OF THIS INFORMATION. BOB

 

 

 




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Posted: 7/10/08 10:13am Message 17 of 34
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Well now....there ya have it!
It does say they are "investigating" the claims of newer oils not being wear-friendly in the older engines, so...there appears to be at least some truth in the rumors.
In the meantime, why take a chance? Use the additives you can buy, or the Rotella or Delo diesel oils...better safe than sorry.

Thanks for getting the info from Castrol, Bob!


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Posted: 7/10/08 10:36am Message 18 of 34
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CAN SOE ONE EXPLAIN THE REASONING FOR DIFFERENT OIL WEIGHTS?< =sIFR-flash =sifr/CastrolSansCon-Regular.swf width=375 height=30 =application/x-shockwave-flash sifr="true" flashvars="txt=CASTROL SYNTEC 20W-50 &textcolor=007B32&hovercolor=FFFFFF&color=007B32&w=375&h=30" ="transparent" wmode="transparent" quality="best">

Castrol SYNTEC 20w-50

Exceptional Engine Protection for Classic Cars


Finally, a motor oil that's one for the classics...

Today's engines face different demands than those of yesteryear. Now classic car owners who are particular about what they put in their vintage vehicles can receive modern wear protection from a high–zinc formula specially engineered for classic engines.

Back in 1906 Castrol created its first automobile lubricant. Since then, our leading–edge technologies have protected generation after generation of engines. Castrol SYNTEC 20W–50 motor oil is geared to protecting, preserving and helping extend the life of your vehicle from an age gone by that still lives on.
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Key Benefits *

  • Contains increased zinc levels for extra engine wear prevention.
  • Utilizes proprietary additives and base oils to reduce metal–on–metal contact of aging engine parts.
  • Engineered to increase wear protection for classic cars with flat tappet camshafts.
* SYNTEC 20W–50 does not meet the catalyst compatibility requirements of vehicles manufactured since 1993.

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Posted: 7/11/08 7:00am Message 19 of 34
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COPPERAS COVE, TX - USA
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Corvette Fever Aug 08 page 52 has an article about engine oil that's pretty good. I run rotela in my 87 PU, ever since it wiped three lobes on the cam. bought the truck from a kid that wasnt savy on the new oils. His loss my gainCry


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Posted: 7/12/08 7:02am Message 20 of 34
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Holland, OH - USA
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  I'm kind of curious, No mention of synthetics after all, mobil 1 is a good oil.
 
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