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OCTANE REQUIRED

Posted: 3/24/06 2:24pm Message 1 of 18
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What octane level should be enough to run my  350/350 11:1 compression engine. The engine is stock with the addition of a mild cam in it. I just bought the car and haven't checked the timing yet - but when I really step on it I get valve ping. I put 93 pump gas and added a bottle of octane booster so far. 


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Posted: 3/24/06 2:40pm Message 2 of 18
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With that compression ratio you need at least 93 octane. If the additive helps use it. You can try backing off the timing some and see if that makes a difference, though you might lose a little performance, but that could be preferable to a burnt valve or worse.


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Posted: 3/24/06 3:45pm Message 3 of 18
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Vette(s): 1972 conv., sunfire yellow, blk interior, blk vinyl and convertible top. Off frame restoration with American Speed 383 stroker engine producing 500hp plus a 200hp NOS system. MSD ignition. Hooker super competition headers with chambered exhaust.

I've always used 93 octane plus a bottle of 104 octane booster. I found out last week that I can buy aviation fuel (100 octane) for $2.80 per gallon. Since i'm paying $2.69 for 93 octane plus $7 for the octane booster, the avaition fuel will be cheaper.

Is it safe to run the avaition fuel?




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Posted: 3/24/06 4:00pm Message 4 of 18
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Vette(s): 1969 L71 riverside gold convertible on frame restoration numbers matching motor 4:11 factory rear 4speed with hooker side pipes
try checking out dealers around you that sell racing fuel and purchase it buy the 55 gallon drum. Then use 5 gallons of it per tank. For long trips I use octane supreme 130 http://www.kemcooil.com/product_info.php?pId=61 


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Posted: 3/24/06 4:38pm Message 5 of 18
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Vette(s): 1972 conv., sunfire yellow, blk interior, blk vinyl and convertible top. Off frame restoration with American Speed 383 stroker engine producing 500hp plus a 200hp NOS system. MSD ignition. Hooker super competition headers with chambered exhaust.

I checked on the racing fuel too. It was $352 for a 55 gallon drum. That calculates to $6.40 per gallon.

So let's figure this...5 gallons of racing fuel @ $6.40 per gal =$32.00. 13 gallons of 93 octane @ 2.69 = $34.97 for a total of $64.97 to fill the tank. That's too rich for my blood, especially since I only get a little over 9 miles per gallon.

As for Supreme 130, I have too much lead in my foot. I don't need any in my gas.




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Posted: 3/24/06 6:46pm Message 6 of 18
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Jim,
If you can get avgas,100LL, for 2.80 a gallon, you better buy a tanker full. Here it is 4.29 at the pump and a tanker load,10,000 gallons, is going for 3.59 per gallon.
Also the 100LL isn't for everyone. It still contains lead, hence the LL, low lead.
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Scott



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Posted: 3/24/06 7:22pm Message 7 of 18
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Scott,

I was telling a friend that owns our NAPA store about the $2.80 per gallon for the aviation fuel and he didn't believe it either. So I had him call and they gave him the same price. This price isn't at the local gas stations, it's from the distributor.

Just in case you want a couple of tanker loads, here's the company and phone number. Campbell Oil Co. 910-862-4107.




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Posted: 3/25/06 8:21am Message 8 of 18
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Jim

    100LL is good fuel -but. My experience with it was - it runs hotter and had a great tendency to cause my carb to ice up in cooler temp. After a couple of months , car started to run bad. Did some checking and found I was loosing comprossion in the cycs. Pulled the heads and found the valves were showing signs of burning. I know this was not a problem because I had to replace a left side blown head gasket a couple of months before I started using the Avgas. Just my experience. You may not have the same problems and probably withe the newer high strength valve material today, it may never be a problem.

Jim

 




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Posted: 3/25/06 12:09pm Message 9 of 18
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anyone ever heard of adding 10% toluene ???( painters use it ) i have read it in a book and claimed to be as good as octane boosters but much cheaper . 


Norbert



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Posted: 3/25/06 3:20pm Message 10 of 18
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Toluene is a cleaner, not a lube.  As a result it can be a problem for the fuel system components.  You could cause some damage. kstyer38801.6392013889


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