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here ( holland) there is an oil disccussion going on again:
one specialist say .. never put synthetic oil in our old corvettes (C3) just use mineral 15W40 or 20W50 .. but another one say better to put an synthetic oil in
been doing some reseach on this forum and see lots here use indeed a synthetic oil.
something what took my attention too was the claim that oilcompanies nowdays don't use or atleast use less zinc in their oils. and from what i understood that is not very good for our oldies.
solution is to use oil that is used for diesel engines which contain more zinc??
and further what viscoity to use
now i have shell mineral oil 15W-40 in my vette
the owner manual (1978 c3) say for a temp range 0- 100 degrees F use 10W-30 or 10W-40.
and 5W-30 for temp range of -20 to 60
so to my idea.. 5W-30 synthetic wouldn't be such a good idea .. too thin ???
(i heard from a friend with a 1981 vette his manual mentioned 5W-30 for the range 0-100 ..)
and another further remark i got here.. when i change my oil from mineral to synthetic i best use first a half synthetic oil for some time .
to make it short:
should i go to a synthetic oil with viscosity 5W-30 , 10W-30 , 10W-40 ?
or should i stick to my shell mineral oil 15W-40
or get an oil for diesel engines (viscosity?) (synthetic or dino?)
i saw that in usa there is shell rotella for diesel:
Shell ROTELLA® T SAE 15W-40
Rotella® T Synthetic SAE 5W-40
Shell ROTELLA® T Single Grade
Shell ROTELLA® T Synthetic-Blend
should i use an half synthetic( first time)?
we don't have the rotella here.. but probably something similair
T.I.A. you for any input
art-corvette
one specialist say .. never put synthetic oil in our old corvettes (C3) just use mineral 15W40 or 20W50 .. but another one say better to put an synthetic oil in
been doing some reseach on this forum and see lots here use indeed a synthetic oil.
something what took my attention too was the claim that oilcompanies nowdays don't use or atleast use less zinc in their oils. and from what i understood that is not very good for our oldies.
solution is to use oil that is used for diesel engines which contain more zinc??
and further what viscoity to use
now i have shell mineral oil 15W-40 in my vette
the owner manual (1978 c3) say for a temp range 0- 100 degrees F use 10W-30 or 10W-40.
and 5W-30 for temp range of -20 to 60
so to my idea.. 5W-30 synthetic wouldn't be such a good idea .. too thin ???
(i heard from a friend with a 1981 vette his manual mentioned 5W-30 for the range 0-100 ..)
and another further remark i got here.. when i change my oil from mineral to synthetic i best use first a half synthetic oil for some time .
to make it short:
should i go to a synthetic oil with viscosity 5W-30 , 10W-30 , 10W-40 ?
or should i stick to my shell mineral oil 15W-40
or get an oil for diesel engines (viscosity?) (synthetic or dino?)
i saw that in usa there is shell rotella for diesel:
Shell ROTELLA® T SAE 15W-40
Rotella® T Synthetic SAE 5W-40
Shell ROTELLA® T Single Grade
Shell ROTELLA® T Synthetic-Blend
should i use an half synthetic( first time)?
we don't have the rotella here.. but probably something similair
T.I.A. you for any input
art-corvette
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I think you should stay with what is called for in your owners manual for that year. Just my 2 cents..Your seals and engine was built to use what is recommended..
"I Love all Corvettes! LifeTime Member #60..Terry"

Oceanside, CA - USA
Joined: 11/19/2003
Posts: 191
Vette(s): 1978 Silver Anniversary model. Original L82 engine, 700r4 trans, edelbrock intake, thorly headers, rack&pinion steering, mono rear and front spring, MSD 6A box
Good to here from our friends in The Neatherlands, I used to be stationed in Vokel Air Base, and lived in Udan. Most of thoses Iv'e talked to recommend Non-synthetic 10W-30 as a good all weather oil.
that is 10W-30 , 10W-40 ..... but.. the mineral oil i can find here is only 15W40 ... so should i go to a 10W- .. what might be a synthetic/half synthetic..or that oil for diesel engine which contain more zinc ?
art-corvette
art-corvette

Manteca, CA - USA
Joined: 11/20/2005
Posts: 3623
Vette(s): 1978,two tone,Metalic Rootbeer & gold
1975 L48 4 speed
I don't know how cold it gets there, but 15/40 is not a bad option. I like to use 1 qt. synthetic of a similar wt. and the rest of my usual. I add 2-3 oz. of Lucas oil additive. Including the vettes we have about 7 vehicles around here and I use the same formula for all and my motors last a long time.
Jimmy B.
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This is proabably one of the hottest debated issues among mechanics/enthusiast...I use synthetic in everything I have...my diesel, a 77 comp. ski boat, the whole families gas vehicles and my 76 Vette. If your engine is in good shape it will love the synthetic. If your engine is in poor health I would not use synthetic (it will burn more oil and leak worse than it already does).
The molecules in syntheic are smaller and more uniform and if your seals are questionable it will probably start leaking...just means your seals needed attention anyway.
I have been using 10w-30 in my vette for a few years and just moved to 15w-40 diesel synthetic just for convenience with my pickup...I also have syn in the transmission and rearend. I did have to replace my valve cover gaskets (they were already leaking) and I have rebuilt my trans. Engine has ~ 50,000 original miles and I can tell a difference in how it runs.
What ever you do do not mix synthetic with mineral oil.They are basicly two different animals. I would not use synthetic in a high mileage engine because you will be using a lot of it through leakage (it will flow through old seals easily) and buning off through the (worn)rings. At the higher cost of synthetic you might not want that. If your Vette does not leak now you might try synth. It will help you engine with less friction and heat generated.Just watch and for any leaks that may start. Try it you may like it. I use it. I like it.custom76 2007-05-15 17:26:06
I'm hearing the reduction of Zinc or even the absence of it is really hurting the older engines. It's ok on the newer roller motors, but it's wiping out cams on the older cars.
Anybody else hearing this?


Manteca, CA - USA
Joined: 11/20/2005
Posts: 3623
Vette(s): 1978,two tone,Metalic Rootbeer & gold
1975 L48 4 speed
If you ever desire some of the benefits of synthetic oil without going all the way, read the label, newer formulas are compatible with our usual petroleums. Experts feel it might be a waste to use full synthetics in older motors with lesser tolerances than todays tighter designs. Hence , the recent blends. aceinthehole 2007-05-15 20:32:28
Jimmy B.
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Manteca, CA - USA
Joined: 11/20/2005
Posts: 3623
Vette(s): 1978,two tone,Metalic Rootbeer & gold
1975 L48 4 speed
[QUOTE=daveb12]I'm hearing the reduction of Zinc or even the absence of it is really hurting the older engines. It's ok on the newer roller motors, but it's wiping out cams on the older cars.
aceinthehole 2007-05-15 20:24:57
Anybody else hearing this?
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Oh Yeah ! And, some of the motors I've rebuilt (salvaged) would attest to this phenomena (flat cams, mushroomed lifters , disintegrated main bearings) ICK ! Guess I shouldn't speculate on the user negligence factor.
Jimmy B.
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