Barry, I have had the pleasure of meeting several of the members over the last several years at carlisle, plus just talking with them here on the forum i can tell they are a great bunch. Don't worry though, I do plan on getting more involved with gatherings in the future. Have a great weekend! Joe PS: still trying to get my 2 groove pulley. Waiting to hear something from craigslist, also have been watching e-bay. i want to find one locally.