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Stanley, NC - USA
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Vette(s): 1981, dark blue w/carmel interior. 350 stock, auto tranny, Q-jet carb, ECM box
Just wondering what others may be seeing on temps? I have a 1981 stock with a 350/195hp GM crate motor installed. All ECM and other parts operating as was original.
Today during a 80 miles run in upper 80 degrees I was having a water temp just below the 200 on the gauge and was around 220 on the oil temp. I was not running AC but was running about 65mph on interstate.
When I stopped for a few minutes at home while opening the garage when I went to refire the engine did start but was harder, had to spin out and pump gas a couple of time.
I know there is some heat build up in the engine compartment when hood is closed that could cause some of the harder starting since might be heating up the carb some but is my heat readings in normal range?
Thanks in advance for any answers.
Thanks in advance for any answers.
Tommy


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190 deg running down the road would sound normal to me. The temp creeping up while stopped is also normal, since you don't have the same volume of air flowing thru the radiator. As long as the temps come down while moving, and they do not climb above 230 or so, I'd say yours is about normal. If it gets too hot, it will puke coolant. If it's not puking, then the temps are ok at that time. Another thing is, you can't really always believe what the gauge is reading...they aren't really all that accurate. If you have, or have access to an infrared temp gun, check the actual temp against the gauge, and see how close it really is.
Make sure the radiator is clean, as in no bugs and stuff on it or the A/C condenser.
Make sure the radiator is clean, as in no bugs and stuff on it or the A/C condenser.
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Vette(s): 1982 C3 Collectors Edition 44000 miles, sat in the sun most of its life, My wife purchased it for me for Father's Day in 2007 from her girlfriend that had it for 19 years. It is on the road again. I'm retired but it is now my daily driver.
My 82 run about 190 - 200 water and 210 - 220 Oil. I do have an infrared red heat gun and my
gages to match close. So I’m sure on my
car they are at least in the ball park.
By the way we are looking at old cars and 40 years ago I did gage repair
when we actually took them apart like you would watch changing pivots and
shunts etc. I guess all I’m saying is
gages can change their reading over time so Adam is correct when he says they
can be off overtime. Some will not some
will. Never did that job long enough to
get a feel for the why some did and some seemed not to.
If you ever pull off the gage cluster you will notice shunts
across the gage terminals and they will be different colors from your buddy
with the same car. Those are the
calibration shunts. My guess is the gage manufacturing specification
was so wide that they had to be calibrated before installation to meet the
accuracy requirement for the car. Does not make a lot of difference unless you
replace the gauge with another one.
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Vette(s): 1982 C3 Collectors Edition 44000 miles, sat in the sun most of its life, My wife purchased it for me for Father's Day in 2007 from her girlfriend that had it for 19 years. It is on the road again. I'm retired but it is now my daily driver.
My oil and water temps also seem to reach the same temp range the longer I'm on the road. Always around 190 for water 200 for oil.
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My 74 runs just slightly above 200 on the highway. I have noticed once or twice that if I stop at a rest area that when I restart the car, the temp has spiked. It worried me the first time or two, but as soon as the engine is going and the fan running, that it cools right back down.
Last week going to Charleston, I was worried because right after a rest area, there was a detour and backup, but it went down to the 205-210 mark and stayed there even in bumper to bumper
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Vette(s): 1981, dark blue w/carmel interior. 350 stock, auto tranny, Q-jet carb, ECM box
I think my temps are around normal after too talking with a couple of other '81 owners on road driving conditions.........it's when I am stopped, engine shut off that temps climbs in engine compartment more and makes restarting a little harder.
Engine does refire but not without some extra spinning and pumping the gas some and then have to baby it just a little to get her running smooth again.
My engine compartment is packed and still as she came off the assembly line so very little open space to allow for heat to escape easily so thinking heat is rising under the hood when stopped may be causing some boiling of fuel to cause the harder restart.
Q-jet was remanufactured by All-American Carbs a few months ago so it is in good shape and new manual fuel pump put on when we did the engine swap. Also new radiatior installed with swap.
Maybe just pop the hood when stopped for a few minutes will help out, at least allow for the heat to escape and not build up as high around the fuel parts?
Tommy


Is engine crankaing at the normal speed when hard starting? If not it may be heat soak of the starter solenoid causing the hard start.....happens frequently with headers. It will start normally when engine has cooled.


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danascar said: Is engine crankaing at the normal speed when hard starting? If not it may be heat soak of the starter solenoid causing the hard start.....happens frequently with headers. It will start normally when engine has cooled.
Yes Dan, engine spins over fine, believe just some extra radiant heat buildup in engine compartment once stopped and fan is not turning. With all still factory installed parts, air pump, ECM, AC etc it is a full engine bay with little air space to let escape so on those hotter days and harder runs reckon just need to pop the hood for a few to let the heat escape and not built up inside.
Tommy


Try running a 165 degree t-stat....should lower water temp and help with excess heat.


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Have you tried a carb heat shield?
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