Topic: spark issue
in Forum: C3 Engines
Sometimes hardstarting. Does not give spark to the distributor until I let go of the key ?? Is this a classic sign of something. I have checked the coil, the ign. module, the spark booster, new ign. switch, new starter, new fuse links to the starter, new ballast. Something obviously is shorting, then when I release key everything is o.k. After it finally starts, sometimes takes a while it will then start right up. This does not happen everytime, but is happening more often.

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Sounds like you've checked everything, as I was gonna say it could be a loose wire coming from the starter solenoid. The coil gets a full 12v from the starter in "crank" mode, so the coil will have plenty of juice to fire the engine. Once started, and the key is released, there is a resistor wire that lowers the voltage to the coil to around 6-9 volts.
You may have an issue with the firewall pass-thru connector, where the fusebox bolts on. If the terminals in there get a little corrosion, or get hot and melt, it can cause many intermittent problems like this.

You may want to un-bolt that thing and take a good look inside...
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Sometimes, if it all looks ok, there can still be a terminal problem, such as one that is just loose, and not making contact. If you have a wiring diagram for your car, you can find the IGN wire color, and trace it thru the block, and just isolate that circuit for inspection. You may need to just tighten the female terminals so they make better contact. I've seen some problems solved just by simply dis-connecting it, and bolting it back up. It all depends on the actual nature of the problem.
Have you checked to see if the coil is getting 12v when starting at the times when it doesn't start?
It really looks likes you've checked/changed/replaced everything except the firewall pass-thru at this point, unless there is a break in the wire from the starter to the coil that is killing the 12v while cranking. Perhaps jumping to the + coil terminal when it doesn't start will verify this. We know the ign. switch is sending 12v to the "Start" terminal, because it does crank. The 12v signal for the coil comes off of this same terminal on the starter solenoid, so...no 12v at the coil would have to lead us to a problem in that wire.
Hope this helps, and is not even more confusing...

btw...since the engine is cranking, we know that the pass thru connection should be good. I'm thinking that your issue will be the wire from the starter to the coil, so, really, all of the above is just info...I don't think this wire has a fuse link in it, but I would need to go look at the diagram...
Joel Adams
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Seems like there may be an issue with the "booster" not supplying voltage?
The only way the starter would be a problem is if it was still connected factory-style. If you have the aftermarket Mallory set-up, it probably does not have the solenoid feed to the coil hooked up. Don't know that for a fact, just guessing.
Mallory systems seem to have some issues with voltage fluctuations, too. They tend to fry a lot...

Do the instructions have a wiring diagram? If so, could you copy and e-mail it to me? I'm much better with visuals!

Joel Adams
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Mallory systems seem to have some issues with voltage fluctuations, too. They tend to fry a lot...


