Topic: starter and heat
in Forum: C3 Engines

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Chances are the problem is with the solenoid, and not the starter itself.....assuming there is a problem with the starter at all. Is the engine running hotter than "normal"? Does it "ping" when under a light load(cruizing speed)?
If the ignition timing is too far advanced, you'll get this exact same problem when trying to start a hot engine. One method to determine if it is a timing issue, or starter issue is to try this.....
Next time it cranks slowly, pump the crap out of the throttle 4-5 times, then try to start it. If it starts then, you have a timing issue. The massive volume of raw fuel in the intake will COOL the combustion chambers, and allow the engine to crank properly. It may sound crude, or like an old wives' tale, but it works.
If it doesn't do any good, then you have a heat soak issue with the starter/solenoid. If you are not concerned with keeping the car 100% original, you can install a....ahem...FORD starter solenoid on the firewall/fenderwell area, do a little simple re-wiring at the GM solenoid, and eliminate the heat soak issue for good.

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They sometimes are a pita to get set up properly, since they are designed to bolt up to several different engine/flywheel combos. Other than that, they seem to be the cat's meow for a lot of folks. Several guys here have used them.

Back in the day(hunnert years ago), we were always having the same problem with starter heat issues on the race cars. Then we learned the trick about using the Ford solenoid.....NEVER had another hot start problem after that. Of course, there were none of these fancy schmancy high torques starters out there at the time.....

Joel Adams
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Otay...now ya got my attention! Alan, have you done this? Got any pics? Sounds like a neat mod!

Joel Adams
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Here's a comparison of the Mini and stock starters....

Joel Adams
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