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Timing problem, need help

Posted: 8/25/09 6:20pm Message 21 of 25
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Vette(s): 80 350 4 Spd
But the car did sit for three years with carb dry.   
the motor runs strong & idles pretty smooth, but has a miss at idle and through out rpm. 


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Timing problem, need help

Posted: 8/25/09 7:20pm Message 22 of 25
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Vette(s): 1975 C3 Red, T-Tops, Black Interior. All I need is time and money! Getting there!
Try adding some fuel while it is running and missing and see if it smooths out.   Gas is too difficult to use.  Try some good flamable carb cleaner and spray gently.  If it smooths out it is indeed a fuel problem.  If not, you may want to run a compression test.
 
After sitting that long, the possibility exists that you have a ring problem on one or more pistons.  I may be fine, but worth checking if the fuel is rulled out.



Timing problem, need help

Posted: 9/27/09 2:17pm Message 23 of 25
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Ok been realy bussy and now starting on paint prep, have not gotten to the fuel thing till now. it didnt seem to make a diference in the miss and also spayed wd 40 around carb also to check for vac. leak coudnt find anything. on the rings, its got new pistons and rings but i do want  to do compresion check. 


Timing problem, need help

Posted: 10/22/09 10:39am Message 24 of 25
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Vette(s): 77 supersport el camino
Always remember that timing marks on the cam and crank are "dot to dot"
this gets confusing so stay with me. in a 350 and other v-8's, 4 cyl, v6, etc, each cylinder has a matching cylinder, all have matching cylinders. If you had a 350 on an engine stand with no heads on it and had number 1 cyl at tdc (top dead center) you will notice that there is always another cylinder at tdc, and  had on a 350 that cylinder is #6. I don't know why, but trust me on this, Ive built a lot of 350's, when you match the marks dot to dot, you think its on #1 cylinder, but its NOT, ITS ON TDC #6. I just built a 350 for my van, after cam install, I turned the crank 360% (one full turn and the cam turns a half a turn) and now the cam is positioned at tdc, now you stab the distributor.  if you stab the distributor when its dot to dot and point the rotor to #1, you are really supposed to point it to #6 that is were most people go to start it and the distributor is 180 degrees off and the wonder (including myself) "how is that, it was dot to dot"
I have never done the 12/6 oclock step but it would still work, it is just easier to make sure the marks are correct doing it dot to dot than 12 and 6.
here are matching cylinders 1 and 6, 8 and 5, 4 and 7, 3 and 2, hence 18436572.
 
I never go over 30 degrees total advance, if your doing  36 degrees just to get it to run, you have problems. anymore than 30 especially with high compression engines your going to start losing valves and pistons.



Timing problem, need help

Posted: 10/22/09 11:49am Message 25 of 25
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do yourself a favor, forget all that stuff about twin cyclinders, don't try to confuse yourself, slide the crank gear on and rotate the crank so the dot is at 12 0'clock, put the camshft gear and chain on so that the dot is at 6 o'clock, done, they will be directly facing each other and it will be correct and the cam and crank will be phased correctly its been that way since the beginning of mankind, that why  you won't  make the mistake of being a tooth off doing it the crank 12 and cam 12 way with #1 piston at TDC......dot to dot is a more acurate way to see and phase the motor. anips2009-10-22 12:10:36


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