Topic: Voodoo 268 Help
in Forum: C3 Engines
Thanks for any help guys. Here is my setup and problem:
355 cid, vortec heads, ~9.75 cr, performer intake, holley 650dp, 1.5 rr, 1 5/8" hookers, 2 1/2" dual chambered, voodoo 268 (60103), stock stall/TH350 , 3.70 posi.
Problem: I tuned using a vacuum gage and ended up with 17" at idle. Park/neutral idle is 1200rpm, drive is 700rpm. Any changes I made to carb or timing decreased rpm and vacuum so I thought I was good.
The vette is an absolute dog until ~2800rpm then it feels like a turbo kicks in and it takes off - a huge difference. *Also, it shifts at 3500 instead of 5500.
Do I have a timing problem? Could the carb need different jets? Is this just the cams power band - I would say it feels like only ~100tq until ~2800rpm then ~300tq.
I'm using ported vacuum for the dist but I also had all vacuum lines unconnected and capped. I'm running soft springs in the dist. My setup was great with the 260H (204 @.50) cam that was in. I'm sure I have a tuning problem, just not sure where?
Any clue why the th350 shift points dropped to 3500?
I'll work on retuning today.
I run my dist on ported vacuum, but I had all lines capped while checking vacuum from a manifold vacuum source -nothing was hooked to a vacuum port except the gauge.
I retuned and my vacuum is ~17", RPM in Park is 900, RPM in drive is 600. Any lower timing decreases vacuum and going richer or leaner on the carb decreases vacuum.
Is this cam just too big? Should I advance it 4 degrees or try fast bleed lifers?
Thx guys!
You have a tuning issue. The cams power band is 1800to 6200 so it will feel like it really comes on at the 2000 rpm point, but it should not be a dog down low. The first cam you had was a power band of 1000 to 5500. So there is not much difference.
Not sure why your tranny would be shifting at a different point, but the cam should not have affected this at all. A 2400 stall converter is recommended with this cam to get the most benefit out of it.

I suspect the tranny shifting is a result of a misadjusted cable in a 350, or vacuum modulator failure in a 350 or 400. Not related directly to the cam change.
I feel like it's a tuning issue too. I've tried two different timing lights and they must be inaccurate because the motor runs badly when the timing is below 25 initial per timing light - and below that with the vacuum gauge I only pull 15". Per timing light at 25-28deg the vacuum is at its highest of 17" idle.
Can you tune total mech advance by vacuum? How about setting the idle at 3000RPM then changing out advance springs until highest vacuum is achieved? My only clue right now is maybe too much total too early since I'm using very light springs.
I agree the engine response is a tuning issue. But the shift point may be an adjustment, combined with tuning. Take another look at Ben's method.
this example is with an MSD dist.
set INITIAL timing to the minimum required to get peak MANIFOLD vacuum. you can turn your initial up further without vacuum increasing... dont do this. turn it back down until it drops from peak.. then back up to barely reach peak.
this gives you the BEST off idle response. the timing light figure from this will vary based on a number of factors. lets just use mine as an example. 15 deg at idle.
then i usually take the second weakest springs and second smallest limit bushing and install them in the distributor. I drive the car.. i let it warm up.. and then drive it up hill with it floored.. if I get detonation early but it clears up.. i use the next stronger springs.. if i get detonation and it doesnt clear up i use a larger limit bushing.
i keep doing this until i get no detonation.. on my 427 i am using the third weakest spring combo and the second smallest limit bushing..
I have great off idle response.. and great accleration through the power band.
so to summarize.. I set the IDLE timing and lock it down with the dist adjustment bolt.. then adjust wieghts/springs/bushings from there..
the way you are describing it is to set your timing to be correct at 3000 rpm... and live with the consequences of what it will do to your idle timing.
I say adjust your initial timing first.. then use weights/springs for adjust your high rpm timing.