So I called Banks Power today. Based on what I was told about the twin turbo setup being around 6 grand, I was expecting their full crate engine to run around 12-13 grand. Boy was I in for a surprise. 37 thousand dollars. As beautiful as it would be to run, that is way way WAY above my budget. Back to the drawing board! I could go with a supercharged performance small block...or I could have a small block built and add just the Banks twin turbos alone...the latter seems nice because I'd save some gas money, I think. I just truly need the best setup for what I want to do. I'm looking to run a low 10 second quarter time and keep the car streetable...supercharger or turbocharger? Start throwin out ideas and advice, folks!

Well, How about a V-10 with 7 speed(6-speed for the Americans)??

I would go with the supercharger......VROOM...VROOMMM


Good Luck in your decision.

Cut a hole in the hood and stick a blower on it. Little cheaper route to go, and it looks way cool. I keep telling my girl that eventually someday she will be reading the backside of a 8-71 blower case while sitting in the car. lol
Just my opinion.
Sarge

Just one question, with those kinds of mods, why the heck even talk about fuel mileage??

Which ever way you go, it's going to be a blast.

I know of an early 70s Trans Am, big block modified twin turbo show/drag race street legal car. He says it gets about 2 gallons per mile, if he takes it easy.

I think you can still build your turbo motor for a 13-14k budget. In fact I am putting together on paper a twin turbo motor with a budget of under 10k. It all depends on how much work you put in as opposed to paying for the labor. Not it will not be turn key as the banks motor. If it was me, I would buy the turbos, exhaust manifolds, waste gates, and all the oil feed plumbing from banks. Then come up with a good fuel injection system that you can program your self. Make sure it is up to the job of feeding 800 hp. (fuel pump and injector size.) Then get a good intercooler, or Ben was telling me about Alcohol/water injection to cool the air charge and make detonation less of a problem. Get a strong short block built for you and and get some good heads for the motor. Watch your compression though. Read the stats on the banks motor and copy it. Supercharging is indeed simpler than turbos but I think the more trouble is well worth it for a street car. It's up to you.

Let me jump in on this one. Go get the December issue of Super Chevy. On the cover is an engine that I helped put together with Vrbancic Brothers Racing out in California. Its a blow through Supercharged engine that uses all off the shelf parts, albeit good parts aren't cheap, since everything was off the shelf and not custom it drops the price considerably. The article also lists every part used in the build up. Its 383 and made 720 HP and 644 lb ft. I talk to Vrbancic just yesterday and they said they have orders to build 4 more of those engines because of the article.

Hope this helps.

Checked it out on their web site, not a whole lot of info on it, guess they want to tease you into buying the mag. I will do that since I am interested myself. Hey aftershark.. do you know how well holley's fuel injection systems are set up for 15 psi boosted applications? I am designing a engine for a contest and wonder if the holley steath ram would be a good choice for it. I am not super knowlegeable on fuel injection, but is it a good idea to run a very high fuel pressure pump to compensate for the smallish injector size, that comes with the kit? I need to feed a hypothetical 850+ hp turbo motor. Do you have a better idea on this problem? I am trying to avoid spending a ton of money on getting huge and expensive injectors, since I am on a $10,000 budget for the whole engine.

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well here we go, folks. done some work...and I've got a list for ya, of parts I'm considering. opinions, advice, and feedback is not only appreciated, it is REQUIRED, muahaha.

$2,000.00 rebuild original engine (alotted myself 2 grand for labor and kit to rebuild the engine, and hopefully take it to 600-650HP without a blower, but blower-ready)

$89.99 K&N Air Cleaner 14" neck: 5-1/8" element height: 3" (599-60-1235, www.jegs.com)
$3999.98 AFR 210cc SB-Chevy Cylinder Heads (033-1103, www.jegs.com)
$67.99 Jacobs Electronics Ultra Coil (566-380876, www.jegs.com)
$249.99 MSD Billet and Pro-Billet Distributors (121-8360 OR 121-8356, www.jegs.com) (not sure which of the two to get)
$82.99 Edelbrock Victor Fuel Pumps, SB CHevy (350-1711, www.jegs.com)
$195.99 Crane Cams Vacuum Cast Aluminum Rockers, SB Chevy (270-11745-16, www.jegs.com)
$91.99 Edelbrock SB-Chevy Tall Valve Covers, Polished w/ script (350-4153, www.jegs.com)
$45.99 Edelbrock Performer Link Timing Chain Sets, SB-Chevy V8 (350-7800, www.jegs.com)

$109.99 SB-Chevy - Street Master Camshaft
Adv. Duration: 285°/285°
Gross Lift: .507''/.507''
RPM Range: 2200-6200 (638-07102, www.jegs.com)

$989.99 B&M Street/strip Transmissions, TH-400 Chevy (130-112002, www.jegs.com)

$409.99 Edelbrock Thunder Series AVS Carbs - 800 cfm, ELectric Choke (350-1813, www.jegs.com)
$3889.97 Weiand 250 Pro Street Supercharger SB Chevy Polished (510-77-250CSBPK, www.jegs.com)
$441.99 TCI Streetfighter torque converter 1965-81 TH-350, 400 with Small Bolt Pattern (890-242122, www.jegs.com)

As you can see, I'm going mostly edelbrock. I'd trust em with my life. I included spark plugs in the price total at $69.99, though I dunno what kinda plugs I need yet. look at my post in C3 Electrical for more on that. The total thus far for the engine (dunno if I missed any parts I need) is...$12,666.84. MUCH more within my budget.

And as a little extra, the other stuff I'm puttin on...

$926.99 - Hooker 1963-82 Corvette Sidemount Headers (520-2234, www.jegs.com)
$255.99 - Hooker Chrome Sidepipes (520-65284, www.jegs.com, fits: corvette headers 520-2234)

$419.95 - 77-82 Corvette O-Ring Brake Kit(ID number 22749O, www.vbandp.com)
$1,156.00 - C3 Power Steering Rack and Pinion Conversion Kit (CMP83030-1, http://www.carchemistry.com/steeroids.html)
$2,299.95 - Performance Plus Suspension System 1963-79 (ID number 42000, www.vbandp.com)

If there's any opinions on those as well. Hrm...With All I'm ordering for jegs.com, I wonder if they'll ask em to marry them. Counting exhaust that's like 12 grand of products I'm gonna order from them all at once. Anyhow, advice and opinions, fire away!
(I honestly don't know if that transmission will be able to handle the power I'm looking for or not.)

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The turbo 400 is one of the strongest automatics ever built. With the BM build, it should not have any problem with the power.

Is the 4L80E its close overdrive cousin? I've seen this tranny behind 1300 hp turbo cars.

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