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What is the proper opeartion of the choke?

Posted: 1/23/07 6:57am Message 1 of 10
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I've been having problems starting up my '76 L48, and my father in law suggested holding open the choke and trying to start it. Sure enough, this worked just fine. When i would tap the gas, the choke would slightly close, to a maximum of about 75% closed. I let the car sit overnight, and this morning, the choke was still wide open. I believe that it is supposed to close when the engine is cold, correct?

So it doesn't seem to be doing that. Any ideas?

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What is the proper opeartion of the choke?

Posted: 1/23/07 7:06am Message 2 of 10
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The choke blade should close completely when the temp is cold. Once started, the vacuum pull-off should open it slightly, to keep from flooding. Then, as the engine temp warms, the choke should go to full open automatically.
You may have a broken/damaged spring inside the choke housing.
Is this the original Quadrapuke, or an aftermarket carb? Does it have an electical connection on the choke housing?Adams' Apple2007-01-23 07:07:08


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What is the proper opeartion of the choke?

Posted: 1/23/07 7:09am Message 3 of 10
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As far ask i know, it i s an original carb....it doesn't look like it's an aftermarket carb. It hasn't given me any problems until the past week or so. Could it be that it is gummed up (for lack of a better term)? It moves freely when manipulated by hand.


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What about installing a manual choke????



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What is the proper opeartion of the choke?

Posted: 1/23/07 11:34am Message 5 of 10
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[QUOTE=IR1976]... It moves freely when manipulated by hand.[/QUOTE]

It should have some tension on it at all times, either holding it open, or holding it closed.
With the engine cold, you should be able to step on the accelerator pedal slightly, and the choke should close.


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Posted: 1/23/07 4:23pm Message 6 of 10
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As Joel has said sort of.... the correct way to start is to pump your pedal ONCE.  This will reset the choke to closed, and also pump a small amount of fuel into the manifold.  When you crank it over and it fires, the vacuum system will open the choke slightly so the engine doesn't get too much fuel and not enough air.  As the engine heats up the choke should open according to the temp of the engine (that's for auto chokes only).
 
If you have a manual choke, just pull the knob all the way out and give the pedal ONE pump. Fire up the engine and push the knob in till the engine is idling without kicking and farting.  Oh, don't forget to push it in further as the engine heats up.  You wouldn't be the first to foul a set of plugs by running for a hundred miles with the choke on.
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[QUOTE=IR1976]As far ask i know, it i s an original carb....it doesn't look like it's an aftermarket carb. It hasn't given me any problems until the past week or so. Could it be that it is gummed up (for lack of a better term)? It moves freely when manipulated by hand.[/QUOTE]

by any chance did you clean outside of carb with something like gumout spray? have noticed when i used it sometimes linkage would stick.  gumout would dry everything up that linkage couldn't move freely. a real small amount of wd 40 or a silicone lubricant did the trick. just a thought.



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What is the proper opeartion of the choke?

Posted: 1/25/07 6:11am Message 8 of 10
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I haven't cleaned it with anything. It seems that when i press on the gas when the engine is cold, the choke will close. However, it seems to want to stutter and then sometimes stall out when the choke is closes. Granted, it's like 25 degrees in my garage, and this might have something to do with it....

There is tension on the choke...it's obvious that there is a spring that lets it open and close.

Also, i'm running it right now without the air cleaner cover on it so i can see what the choke is doing...but once when i started the car up, just as the engine caught and started, a quick plume of smoke shot up from the carb. Is *that* normal? It only did it once, and it was quick.

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Posted: 1/25/07 7:12am Message 9 of 10
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IF you had some sort of vapors coming out of the carb, it could mean a timing problem, or there is something else wrong with the carb. It could also just be some leftover fuel in the intake that spat out when one of the intake valves opened.
Might be time for carb surgery...


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Posted: 1/25/07 5:16pm Message 10 of 10
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Yep, I agree with Joel.  If it's a Quadrapuke just go and buy a 600 Holley.  You'll never have a problem with it.  While you're at it why not throw an Edelbrock performer manifold on to go with the Holley.  You WILL notice the difference.


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