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Re: Worn Cam... replace or too late

Posted: 4/6/16 7:19pm Message 11 of 16
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To be honest, gear drives are no good for anything other than making noise to impress someone. The only REAL, quality set-up that actually improves anything is the single idler types that require a special timing cover, and are a pita to do correctly, or the sets that have only the two gears, where the cam gear meshes directly with the crank gear. The floating, dual idler set-ups are not reliable, and usually create timing issues.
Imho, I'd stay with the tried & true Cloyes double roller chain/gear setThumbs Up


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Re: Worn Cam... replace or too late

Posted: 4/8/16 6:59am Message 12 of 16
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Adams' Apple said: 
Imho, I'd stay with the tried & true Cloyes double roller chain/gear setThumbs Up

You're right, had to entertain the option tho. I ended up with the Cloyes double roller and a new timing chain cover. I have all the parts and will have it running this weekend. Can't wait. 

New Edelbrock Cam, rebuilt heads with 2.02/1.60 valves, new oil pump and Pan. And while it was laid up and in the air I installed a new Borgeson steering box, new front and rear anti-sway bars and a new rear spring. 

Can't wait till the cam is broken in.....




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Re: Worn Cam... replace or too late

Posted: 4/9/16 1:50pm Message 13 of 16
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Vette(s): 1974 Coupe 358ci 4 speed Black w/Medium Saddle interior w/79 custom leather seats. . 1999 C5 Convertible, 6 speed, Atomic orange, Oak interior.
Had a gear drive in my engine for awhile, got tired of people telling me my power steering pumpwas bad.Unhappy I still have it, Pete Jackson.


   

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Re: Worn Cam... replace or too late

Posted: 4/19/16 8:15am Message 14 of 16
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So I got the Cam/Lifters and heads installed and the motor is back together. Started on first try. When I pulled the pan I did not remove the starter, I just removed all the bolts for the inspection cover so I could get the pan down. That left the inspection cover hanging while I cleaned the pan and installed the cam, etc.. When I was rolling the motor over while adjusting the valves I could hear what I thought was the flywheel rubbing against that dangling inspection plate. Nothing major since I was manually rolling the motor over and I figured that would be gone once I buttoned up the oil pan and reinstalled the inspection cover bolts. 

But that clanging sound is still there and was not there when I started this project. I am going to pull the starter and inspection plate and have a look, but I wanted to run this by the forum to see if anyone can provide more detail / info.

Tia,
Pat



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Re: Worn Cam... replace or too late

Posted: 4/19/16 2:05pm Message 15 of 16
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Found the problem. When I tried to cut some time by leaving the starter in and the inspection plate hanging I bent the inside flange on the inspection plate when I was adjusting the valves. When I bolted the plate back on it allowed the crank flange to hit the bent part of the inspection plate creating that terrible noise. Pulled it apart, cleaned and repaired and painted the inspection plate and I'm done except for the hood. Just ran the cam in at 2k rpm for 20 minutes and then put 150 miles on the new cam at highway speeds. Great to be back on the road. Also the borgeson upgrade is worth every penny spent. @f4gary I have reconsidered the roller cam and would def spend the extra cash for the sake of breakin worries. I used a ton of assembly lube and breakin lube as well as Chevys OES supplement recommended by edelbrock. Fingers crossed. It's done right. Take care and thanks Pat


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Re: Worn Cam..

Posted: 4/19/16 5:17pm Message 16 of 16
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apesa63:  I enjoyed reading your account of diagnosing and rebuilding your engine. Glad you are rock'n and roll'in again!  Thanks for sharing with us.


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