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Cramerton, NC - USA
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Vette(s): black 1982 coupe slate gray interior, 350 crossfire, 1985 fuel pump, Steeroids R&P conversion
There is a special tool which is a "J" shape available from DCS they are well made but they are $$. I have a buddy who has one of the DCS tools and it looks good laying in the toolbox but its a very rarely used tool. I took the buba way out and made one from a piece of copper tubing (carefully bent to match the DCS tool) and a $10 flex shaft carburator adjusting tool from pepboys. Mine isnt nearly as pretty as the DCS model but it works just as well. I havent checked my mileage on a road trip but around town cruising I get a little better than 17 mpg on my crossfire, the same as before the fuel pump / pressure modification. There is a ton of info on the fuel pump and fuel pressure modification on the crossfire injection vault at http://www.crossfire.homeip.net/
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Vette(s): black 1982 coupe slate gray interior, 350 crossfire, 1985 fuel pump, Steeroids R&P conversion
In case other 82 owners are interested, here is a detailed post with pics on rebuilding the throttle bodies and removing the block off plate to the fuel pressure regulator. I have experience with only two crossfires that have been modified this way but both results were good.
Making the fuel pressure adjustable is not rocket science or really difficult, it just takes a little time and patience to do. You will need to order a throttle body rebuild kit before you start because you will be disassembling parts with gaskets between them. The kit is available from Ecklers as well as other suppliers. Once the gaskets are disturbed, you will need to clean the surfaces and install new gaskets and "O" rings. Pay careful attention to how everything goes together so you will know how to reassemble. Taking pictures as you go is a wise idea.
First off, you will NOT need to remove the throttle body bases from the intake. You will need to remove the injector "pods" or "towers" from the bases. This can easily be one with the bases on the car. You will need to remove the 5 screws that hold the top of the tower to the tower itself. All of these screws are not the same length, keep track of which screw came from where. Once the 5 screws are out, you may need to tap the top the cover with a screwdriver or small hammer to jar it loose from the tower. After it is loose, remove the top and attached fuel fuel pressure regulator. Removing the injector itself is easy, just use a screwdriver to pry it out, here you see me using ahandle of a pair of pliers as a fulcrum for the lever. Pay PARTICULAR attention to the "O" rings and metal ring. These MUST be installed exactly right when you reassemble. Getting the injector back into its place with the spacer and "O" rings will be a difficult chore. It MAY be possible to leave the injector in place but scraping off the old gasket will be difficult but there are "O" rings and a screen filter on the injector itself that you will probably want to replace. You will next need to remove the the fuel pressure reguator from the lid. This will be done by removing the 4 screws that hold it in place. There is a STRONG spring in the regulator that mut be contained as you unscrew the 4 screws. This can be done either by mechanical clamps or with your hand . The spring is strong but not to the point that you cant hold it. Release all the parts that are inside and day attention to how the parts are arranged. Be aware that the diaphrams are different for the drivers side and passengers side throttle bodies. When disassembling the pressure regulator DO NOT turn the screw on the pressure adjustment until everything is back together and you have a pressure gauge installed. If the screw is left at its original position you should have the same pressure 11-12 pounds after reassembly as when you disassembled it. There is a "plug" in the bottom of the regulator that blocks the adjustment of the fuel pressure. This plug must be removed by using a punch to drive it off, it will not give much resistance. Once the plug is removed, the regulator can be reassembled just as it was before. With the plug removed, you will be able to get to the adjustment stud. You now should be able to see how the tool works. By turning the stud, it moves the washer inside of the regulator and increases or decreases the spring tension inside of the regulator. Once the tower is reassembled onto the base and the injector is reinstalled, the tool is used to reach under the throttle body, engage the stud and adjust the pressure. The pressure you are looking for is 14 - 14.5.Crossfire1982 2011-06-14 04:43:53
Since the 85 fuel pump puts out much more pressure it's wise to replace the rubber fuel lines with high pressure fuel injection hose and good quality clamps at the connections. If you consider adjusting the pressure on the regulator I highly recommend you replace the "O" rings, diaphrams and other goodies in the throttle bodies at the same time, after all, the originals are 30 years old. I also HIGHLY recommend taking pictures at each step of the process to make sure you will have a reference to put things back.
I apologize for the length of this post but it takes this much to explain the process. Im sure I have left something out and if you have questions, send me a PM and Ill clarify if I can. IF you decide to make the fuel pressure regulator adjustable the info below will be helpful. The pics will be helpful if you just decide to rebuild the throttle bodies, its not difficult at all. The pressure adjustment tool in the photos is a $50 bought one belonging to a buddy. I made mine from a piece of copper tubing and an old carburator adjustment tool with a flex shaft on it. You may decide to balance your throttle bodies which may help performance as well. It's important for the throttle bodies to operate exactly at the same time and to the same degree. This is not a difficult task but does take a little time. I have a step by step procedure for this also if you are interested. OK, here goes.
Making the fuel pressure adjustable is not rocket science or really difficult, it just takes a little time and patience to do. You will need to order a throttle body rebuild kit before you start because you will be disassembling parts with gaskets between them. The kit is available from Ecklers as well as other suppliers. Once the gaskets are disturbed, you will need to clean the surfaces and install new gaskets and "O" rings. Pay careful attention to how everything goes together so you will know how to reassemble. Taking pictures as you go is a wise idea.
First off, you will NOT need to remove the throttle body bases from the intake. You will need to remove the injector "pods" or "towers" from the bases. This can easily be one with the bases on the car. You will need to remove the 5 screws that hold the top of the tower to the tower itself. All of these screws are not the same length, keep track of which screw came from where. Once the 5 screws are out, you may need to tap the top the cover with a screwdriver or small hammer to jar it loose from the tower. After it is loose, remove the top and attached fuel fuel pressure regulator. Removing the injector itself is easy, just use a screwdriver to pry it out, here you see me using ahandle of a pair of pliers as a fulcrum for the lever. Pay PARTICULAR attention to the "O" rings and metal ring. These MUST be installed exactly right when you reassemble. Getting the injector back into its place with the spacer and "O" rings will be a difficult chore. It MAY be possible to leave the injector in place but scraping off the old gasket will be difficult but there are "O" rings and a screen filter on the injector itself that you will probably want to replace. You will next need to remove the the fuel pressure reguator from the lid. This will be done by removing the 4 screws that hold it in place. There is a STRONG spring in the regulator that mut be contained as you unscrew the 4 screws. This can be done either by mechanical clamps or with your hand . The spring is strong but not to the point that you cant hold it. Release all the parts that are inside and day attention to how the parts are arranged. Be aware that the diaphrams are different for the drivers side and passengers side throttle bodies. When disassembling the pressure regulator DO NOT turn the screw on the pressure adjustment until everything is back together and you have a pressure gauge installed. If the screw is left at its original position you should have the same pressure 11-12 pounds after reassembly as when you disassembled it. There is a "plug" in the bottom of the regulator that blocks the adjustment of the fuel pressure. This plug must be removed by using a punch to drive it off, it will not give much resistance. Once the plug is removed, the regulator can be reassembled just as it was before. With the plug removed, you will be able to get to the adjustment stud. You now should be able to see how the tool works. By turning the stud, it moves the washer inside of the regulator and increases or decreases the spring tension inside of the regulator. Once the tower is reassembled onto the base and the injector is reinstalled, the tool is used to reach under the throttle body, engage the stud and adjust the pressure. The pressure you are looking for is 14 - 14.5.
Thanks again Chip for sharing the information. I'll do as you recommend and take lots of pictures. I think I can put up with driving the RV around for a few weeks. It does have a Dodge V8 350ci in it and curses right along. Well, once it gets going that is. The early AM here is still very nice and cool. I'll post my progress.
Keith
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K Woody
Hello all. The 85 pump install went smoothly. She sure is a lot perkier now and no hesitation. An extended leak check went fine and now I'm just waiting for rebuild kit and pressure meter assy. Thanks again for all the help.
Gilbert: I'm planing to make up an adjustment tool. I don't plan to do any extended driving until I get the TB rebuild kit and the DCS pressure assy. I'm looking at the water pressure metering articles to also build a meter for setting the balance on the TBs. Mine are still factory set and the engine really runs smoothly and does not make any disturbing sounds. Mostly, I get the remark: "She runs quiet!" from passer-bys. As you know everybody has a vette story they want to tell you.....
Keith
kwoody 2011-06-15 10:27:43
Gilbert: I'm planing to make up an adjustment tool. I don't plan to do any extended driving until I get the TB rebuild kit and the DCS pressure assy. I'm looking at the water pressure metering articles to also build a meter for setting the balance on the TBs. Mine are still factory set and the engine really runs smoothly and does not make any disturbing sounds. Mostly, I get the remark: "She runs quiet!" from passer-bys. As you know everybody has a vette story they want to tell you.....
Keith

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K Woody
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Lemon Grove, CA - USA
Joined: 10/17/2007
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Vette(s): 1982 C3 Collectors Edition 44000 miles, sat in the sun most of its life, My wife purchased it for me for Father's Day in 2007 from her girlfriend that had it for 19 years. It is on the road again. I'm retired but it is now my daily driver.
If you want to borrow my fuel adjustment tool let me know and I will mail it to you. We are almost neighbors being I'm a bedroom community to San Diego.
Gilbert
Thanks Gilbert. That would be fantastic. I was trying to find a good picture with a size reference so I could home brew one.
I'll PM you with my info. I'm considering the life membership and getting another C3 for the future. I thought I was gonna sell baby and get a plane but, those thoughts have vanished.
Keith
I'll PM you with my info. I'm considering the life membership and getting another C3 for the future. I thought I was gonna sell baby and get a plane but, those thoughts have vanished.
Keith

Nobody ever waves when I'm driving the Explorer.
K Woody
Hello All.
My TB rebuild kit should arrive tomorrow and I have removed and cleaned the IACs and the air ports where they mount . I cleaned out a lot of gunk from the air ports. I also found the HEI ignition coil cracked so, I replaced that and cleaned and deoxied the connectors in the ignition circuit.
The Monument fire in Southern Arizona is about 80 miles SE of my location. Evacuations are wide spread in the Seria Vista area. A new fire has crossed the boarder at Sasabe. That is SW of my location and may be a factor if it gets out of hand. I want to get the Baby running again as soon as possible in case we have to get out fast.
Keith
My TB rebuild kit should arrive tomorrow and I have removed and cleaned the IACs and the air ports where they mount . I cleaned out a lot of gunk from the air ports. I also found the HEI ignition coil cracked so, I replaced that and cleaned and deoxied the connectors in the ignition circuit.
The Monument fire in Southern Arizona is about 80 miles SE of my location. Evacuations are wide spread in the Seria Vista area. A new fire has crossed the boarder at Sasabe. That is SW of my location and may be a factor if it gets out of hand. I want to get the Baby running again as soon as possible in case we have to get out fast.
Keith

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K Woody
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Vette(s): 1982 corvette crossfire production numer C5101985. Color is silver and claret. All original numbers match. slight mods to crossfire for better efficiancy and power balanced and added fuel pressure assembly between throttle bodies,
The tool for the adjustment is the hardest thing to come across, i keep checking with the dcs site and they are always out of stock on the fuel line and the tool.
I wound up spitting my fuel line and putting a jeggs 15lb fuel pressure guage between the throttle bodies.
the Gm Double D tool I retrieved from a co-worker's friend.
Crossfire Injection Forum has a detailed tech artical on how to adjust the fuel pressure from start to finsih
I would recomend this link to anyone who is looking at adjusting their stock fuel pressure, they have taken good pics and give step by step instructions on how to do it.
Marcus
Thanks Marcus,
Again Welcome to C3VR.
Yeah, I am a member of the Vault and have been for about 6 months. I don't see a lot of activity there but, the archived articles are great. Thanks for the info on the tool. I'll be able to fabricate something along the lines of the DCS tool.
This is my first dealing with DCS. Jim said the pressure assys were 2 week out when I talked with him a few days ago. He has my number and email. I have to give him the benefit of the doubt. DCS has had outstanding reviews so, I'll wait the 2 weeks and give him another call.
With the wild fire situation here in Southern Arizona, I have to keep Baby ready to make a quick escape but, I'm not driving her until I get the rebuild kit in and most likely until I pull the plugs, clean and re-gap them.
Thanks for the input and I hope you stick around.
All the best!
Keith
Again Welcome to C3VR.
Yeah, I am a member of the Vault and have been for about 6 months. I don't see a lot of activity there but, the archived articles are great. Thanks for the info on the tool. I'll be able to fabricate something along the lines of the DCS tool.
This is my first dealing with DCS. Jim said the pressure assys were 2 week out when I talked with him a few days ago. He has my number and email. I have to give him the benefit of the doubt. DCS has had outstanding reviews so, I'll wait the 2 weeks and give him another call.
With the wild fire situation here in Southern Arizona, I have to keep Baby ready to make a quick escape but, I'm not driving her until I get the rebuild kit in and most likely until I pull the plugs, clean and re-gap them.
Thanks for the input and I hope you stick around.
All the best!
Keith

Nobody ever waves when I'm driving the Explorer.
K Woody
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