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82 collector edition wont start....Help

Posted: 1/6/10 7:09am Message 11 of 26
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Brockport, NY - USA
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Vette(s): 1982 Collector Edition
Car is put away for winter. Will work on it as I can. Second project is building a ramp to work on the vette. Found plans on C3 Corvette Land.
 
First will swap out prom back to Hypertek prom. Then the ramps been wanting to build ramps for along time so I can work on the vette.
 
Dan



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82 collector edition wont start....Help

Posted: 1/6/10 9:52am Message 12 of 26
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Mounds View, MN - USA
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Vette(s): 70 LT1 coupe, 69 350 HP coupe, 69 390HP 427 coupe, 71 LS5 convert, 85 coupe, 93 coupe
The chip controls the fuel pump, so Joel's idea of a bent pin would explain not hearing the pump run.  That seems like a first check.

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82 collector edition wont start....Help

Posted: 1/8/10 9:08am Message 13 of 26
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Titusville, FL - USA
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Vette(s): 1977 Coupe (White), 2006 Convertible (Victory Red). NCM Life Member #2221.
 
 
I had a little bit of this problem with starting, and to stay running, while my '82 was in the shop for general maintenace. While moving the car outside, my mechanic said the car stalled and shut down. Eventually, with numerous troubleshooting trys and replacing both air throttle valves to no avail the car would not stay running.
 
Searching the car from front to back, we eventually found that the fault was in the fuel tank. Not the sending unit mind you, but the attaching hardware had failed. The sending unit has a hose held by 2 teflon clamps (pictured above) that is in turn attached to the fuel line leaving the tank and going to the engine/fuel pump. While both of the clamps over time had become 'brittle', one of them actually broke at the geared teeth and allowed the hose atttached to come undone and pretty much just rerouted the fuel right back into the fuel tank...allowing just enough fuel to reach the injectors and start the car for a few seconds.
 
So, I would also look at the sending unit assy and make sure all of the hardware that is attached, is in fact, attached and in good condition.
 
I replaced those teflon clamps with typical radiator hose clamps. The car runs like a champ now!
 
And keep in mind, this issue is only for the '82 MY...the only C3 with a in-tank fuel pump.
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82 collector edition wont start....Help

Posted: 1/9/10 7:20am Message 14 of 26
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Cramerton, NC - USA
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Vette(s): black 1982 coupe slate gray interior, 350 crossfire, 1985 fuel pump, Steeroids R&P conversion
That 2 inch section of hose in the tank should be suspect in any 82 that has running or stumbling problems.  I changed my fuel pump about 2 years ago and my hose was in bad shape but when changing the pump on a friends 82 about a  year ago the 2 inch hose LITERALLY fell apart in my hands, it crumbled to dust as I removed it.  We also replaced the in-line fuel filter after replacing the pump.  I didnt cut the filter open to see how much of the hose particles were in there but Ill bet it was full.  Stumbling problem went away immediately.


82 collector edition wont start....Help

Posted: 1/15/10 8:49am Message 15 of 26
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Brockport, NY - USA
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UPDATE:
Took cover off vette, warmed up here 40 degrees.....
Took battery out and topped off charge and put in hyperchip. Pins on stock prom were messed up.
Will start  vette when battery is charged......
Will need stock prom when inspected. Anyone know where to get a stock prom????????
 
Dan.



82 collector edition wont start....Help

Posted: 1/15/10 10:41am Message 16 of 26
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Brockport, NY - USA
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Update:
Put new battery in and tried to start but did not hear the fuel pump charge( whine) so will be checking all connections. Removed the rubber at gas tank filler found the wiring and hoses to be in good shape.
Feel the fuel pump is culprit.
Dan



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Posted: 1/16/10 6:19am Message 17 of 26
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Vette(s): black 1982 coupe slate gray interior, 350 crossfire, 1985 fuel pump, Steeroids R&P conversion
Look around in the battery compartment for an inline fuse and check it.  The fuse for my fuel pump relay is mounted in the battery compartment.


82 collector edition wont start....Help

Posted: 3/10/10 7:35am Message 18 of 26
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Brockport, NY - USA
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Worked on Vette yesterday. Took battery out, topped off charge on it, unplugged fuel pump relay checked plug and pins for problems, reinstalled the relay. Replaced fuse for relay with new. Will check fuses under dash for injectors.
 
Dan



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Posted: 3/10/10 7:40pm Message 19 of 26
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Ya gotsta love them puter controlled carsConfused,thats why I bought my 78,cause it aint got noneClap


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82 collector edition wont start....Help

Posted: 3/10/10 8:30pm Message 20 of 26
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Oak Creek, WI - USA
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Vette(s): 1981 Great White Shark. Red Interior, 350/190 hp. PS, PB (SS), A/C CC, T-Tops. Served three years in Active Duty Army, then Retired Air Force after 34 years! Badger State Vettes Car Club. 175,000 Original miles!! Now own a 1998 C-5!
Dan, ya got her going yet??  Did you see the post about the teflon clamps in the tank??
Dan



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