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Carb Choices

Posted: 7/11/10 9:01am Message 11 of 26
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You can run a edel square bore carb on a # 2101 manifold without having to use the 1/2" spacer double gasket setup by using eldel # 9266 heat insulator gasket, it is 3/8" thick and comes with longer studs, its all you need, it completely covers the Q-jet opening just drop your edel sq. br. carb on top, done, my experence with holley spread bore carbs are they are expensive, run fat and get lousy mileage, and I found that my stock Q-J ran better. anips2010-07-11 09:07:11


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Carb Choices

Posted: 7/11/10 9:55pm Message 12 of 26
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I love quads....will take one over ANY other carb for a street engine, hands down. But...I don't want one that someone else has already tinkered with. Chances are, it'll never be right.

I hear this new-fangled fuel injection is gaining popularity....sounds kinda space-aged to me....I don't think it will last...


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thats like saying 6ft tall norwegian blondes make the best wives..  but only if they are virgins when you get em..
 
basically you shouldnt count on getting one.
 
i like the edelbrock air-gap line (if you can fit it under your hood) for intake and I like the ROAD demon 625 for a 350 street car..  they make a Road, speed, and race demon.  for street, street/strip and strip respectively.
cthulhu2010-07-11 22:03:19


Carb Choices

Posted: 7/18/10 9:39pm Message 13 of 26
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Apparently, the folks at Parr Automotive aren't the car guys they used to be...

Sold me the Edelbrock 1406 carb w/elect choke (so far so good) for a 1980 350 application on a vette to replace the q-jet.

In the instructions for the 1406 it states in bold letters YOU MUST USE EDELBROCK ADAPTER #2696 or ADAPTER & FUEL LINE KIT #2697 and FUEL LINE KIT #8135 DO NOT USE AN OPEN ADAPTER!  and then shows a pic of the ket and the adapter not to use...

The yahoos @ Parr didn't mention this when I asked if it was a direct bolt up.  They would have made more money and had one less pissed off customer had they mentioned this little tid bit above, or at least mentioned that I didn't need to pay attention to it, or at least acknowledged that they had a freakin' clue other than to take my money like a robot.

Don't get me wrong, they were friendly enough, and staying local instead of going to Jegs or Summit was my choice...I guess I should have asked for help (detailed) here first.

Anyone know whether I need the above stuff (other than the fuel line stuff, I know I need that from looking at the carb)?

Any help appreciated...

Signed...another frustrated consumer...



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Posted: 7/18/10 10:59pm Message 14 of 26
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 Turn both carbs upside down and look at the base plates, the Edel SB carb and Q-J carb base plates are different, if you are useing the stock chev intake then you are going to have to use the # 2696 adapter to bolt SB Edel carb to the stock spread bore intake manifold which will raise the carb a little over a 1/2", Dude..., they also failed to tell you that you have to also get the 3/4 Edel. plastic air cleaner spacer so that you stock air cleaner will clear the choke housing if your Q-J used a divorce choke set up,  this will  raise the carb and air cleaner a total of approx 1 1/4", got hood clearence? ...................just took a good look at your hood, looks like you do.

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Posted: 7/19/10 6:55am Message 15 of 26
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Thanks, man.  I think I have the hood clearance however...
 
The base of the air cleaner had to be "modified" to accept the accel pump.  I guess now would be a good time to put metal tape over that spot.
 
I guess I'll be going back to Parr Automotive rather than wait another week on parts to ship...assuming they have the parts in stock.
 
I think I'll probably go with the 8134 fuel line banjo fitting with filter.  I hate the thought of going with a rubber fuel line but I'm not sure if the fuel line they show as an 8123 will reach the fuel pump like the factory steel line.  I'm also not happy about having to cut the steel line but that's not a big deal, the bigger deal is he fuel hose.  I'd like to have it plumbed complete from carb to pump like it is now.  I think I'll go home at lunch and pull the fuel line from the pump to the carb and see if the braided steel line they have (realizing it has rubber inside it) is long enough.
 
We'll see.



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Posted: 7/19/10 10:04am Message 16 of 26
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I don't think you'll have to modifiy the air cleaner base because the 3/4" plastic spacer raise's the AC base 3/4 ", you might want to consider #8134 fuel line & filter kit,  that way if you go with the braided line from the fuel pump to the carb it bolts directley to the filter, send me a PM with your e-mail address and I'll scan my Edel cat and send you a photo of #8134, I don't think you have to worry about the braided line, haven't seen one blow yet. anips2010-07-19 10:11:38


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Posted: 7/19/10 12:32pm Message 17 of 26
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Thanks, man.  I did pick up the #8134, along with the base #2696 and the braided line from the pump to the fuel rail @ the filter (in line).
 
I'll give it a shot tonight!



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Posted: 7/19/10 2:56pm Message 18 of 26
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good luck let me know how it works out.




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Posted: 7/19/10 8:40pm Message 19 of 26
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After bathing in 91 octane for the last hour, I can tell you that the Edelbrock fuel line guaranteed to fit and be long enough from the pump to the filter is BS...The fitting does not fit either the 90 degree fitting or the insert fitting to fit the factory steel fuel line.

Tomorrow, I'll find whateverthehe!! AN fitting I need to make it work from the pump to the line.

I had to mfg a fitting for the TV cable connector and remove the throttle connection from the Q-Jet.  Suffice it to say, she ain't up and runnin' yet...  Makes a great hangar queen though.



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Posted: 7/20/10 7:31pm Message 20 of 26
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Found an inverse flair nipple with a pipe 3/8" female at Ace hardware.  Will put it together tomorrow morning.  Did find a bolt to put in the fuel line and clamp it down.

Does anyone know if it (the carb) should be preset or if I will have to adj the fuel/air mix?



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