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Cooked gas

Posted: 10/8/06 7:10pm Message 1 of 9
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Roseland, NJ - USA
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Vette(s): 1974, 454 with 4 on the floor, matching numbers.
2 summers ago on a real hot day (over a 100) while driving on the highway may car started to run rough and the throttle wasn't responding right. About 1/2 a mile from home the car stalled out. It would crank, but it wouldn't start. After waiting about 15 minutes the car started and I made it home. quite a few people told me it was caused by vapor lock due to the heat. It never happened again.
Today while driving in a Columbus Day Parade ( very slow stop & go for 1/2 hour) As I started to move from a dead stop, the carb "popped" and the car stalled. I tried to start it and the ignition didn't respond Dead. Then the smoke started coming out from under the hood Shocked Censored. Luckily Ten-15 & Mustang Sally were in front of me and pulled over Hug. My carb was on fire CensoredCensored Cry.
Thank God that they were there & no damage was done (except to the top KN filter, that puppy got burned. My running temp is 200 degrees max at all times, the outside temp was around 72. It this normal for a BB to cook the gas ?
The carb is new (Holley Double Pumper) timing is good, and the car runs great. After 5 minutes the car started and I finished the Parade. Any thoughts ?  



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Posted: 10/9/06 7:06pm Message 2 of 9
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Not a rare thing for the carb to vapor lock.   When that happened, the resulting lean condition allowed the car to backfire.  The gas fumes then caught on fire.   This can happen under very hot underhood conditions.  At very slow speeds the under hood car raise a lot even if the coolant and oil temp is okay due to the fact there is not a lot of air moving under there.
 
The return line from the fuel pump is there to help keep gas flowing instead of getting heated in the lines by the exhaust heat.



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Posted: 10/9/06 9:32pm Message 3 of 9
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Urban legend, or some old wives tales have it that putting the old, wooden type clothes pins on the fuel line will stop a vapor-lock from ever happening. The wooden pins absorb the heat, and regulate it enough to keep it from vapor-locking. I used to have a pic. of a big block car with about twenty of them on it!!!

It does werk...jest looks funny as heck...but so does stalling out in the middle of a parade...


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Posted: 10/10/06 8:09pm Message 4 of 9
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After the initial shock, I was more embarrassed than anything elseEmbarrassed. Here I was all dressed up, the car couldn't shine any brighter, people on both sides of the street and this had to happened. Then I developed a valve tap, which went away after the car cooled down, but as I was leaving I heard a very fast ticking/tapping sound, and noticed that my speedometer took a dump Censored . But  after what happened to another guy who had his classic Charger in the parade, my problem was nothing.

This guy went home after the parade, parked his car in his garage, got cleaned up and waited for dinner time. A few minutes later he smelled something burning and asked his wife if she a had left the stove on. When they started to look around the house they found the car was on fire, by the time they got the kids out, and the fire department arrived, the house was totally engulf in flames. The house burned to the ground ! 



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Posted: 10/11/06 5:42am Message 5 of 9
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Talk about having a bad day - Car and House --wow . In the 1960's before modern technology , we use to intall a coiled copper gas line - inside a metal container filled with ice to cool the gas on hot days at the drag strip . Boy that brings back memories - vapor lock is weird -sometimes it happens -somes times it doesn't
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Posted: 10/13/06 1:03pm Message 6 of 9
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Cookie,
 
As per the local pape, there were 2 cars in the guy's garage when the fire started.  They were both in the parade, so I'm assuming that they were both classic cars.
 
The entire house was a total loss, fortunately no one was hurt. 
 
Anthony



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Posted: 10/13/06 1:36pm Message 7 of 9
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[QUOTE=Ten15]Cookie,
 
As per the local paper, there were 2 cars in the guy's garage when the fire started.  They were both in the parade, so I'm assuming that they were both classic cars.
 
The entire house was a total loss, fortunately no one was hurt. 
 
Anthony
[/QUOTE]
 
Anthony,
Did anyone figure out who it was and what cars were involved ? What a shame, the more I think about it the happier I am that my car isn't stored at home.



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Posted: 10/13/06 2:37pm Message 8 of 9
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I would hazard a guess that one of the cars may have had a fuel filter made of glass. They're very available and somewhat popular as an accessory for modified cars. The glass types have had occasions where the glass will shatter, crack, whatever from heat and vibration, leaking fuel all over a hot engine. This has happened with fires resulting of varying levels of damage.

Never, never use one of these aftermarket glass fuel filters!


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Posted: 10/15/06 8:09pm Message 9 of 9
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[QUOTE=Gunslinger]I would hazard a guess that one of the cars may have had a fuel filter made of glass. They're very available and somewhat popular as an accessory for modified cars. The glass types have had occasions where the glass will shatter, crack, whatever from heat and vibration, leaking fuel all over a hot engine. This has happened with fires resulting of varying levels of damage.

Never, never use one of these aftermarket glass fuel filters![/QUOTE]
 
Excellent point, I just found out that the guy had 2 cars in the parade, don't know which one started the fire.



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