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Ethanol

Posted: 1/1/08 9:29pm Message 1 of 19
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Anyone have a problem yet with  Ethanol in fuel... ?
I have heard stories about moisture in fuel tank and problems with fuel lines disintegrating.. we have 10% here and hope it is not a big problem down the road.. anything i should watch for ?



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Posted: 1/2/08 12:28pm Message 2 of 19
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From what I understand 10% should be ok. They are bascially replacing the MTBE (nasty stuff) with Ethanol. The MTBE is a oxyginate additive and an octane booster but it's also super toxic and has been showing up where it's not supposed to be, like in groundwaterShocked. Ethanol as an additive to fuel (my opinion) is a better way to go. It can be corrosive to metal and rubber but that's usually in much higher concentrations and where the difference lies between the flex fuel E85 vehicles and why ethanol is difficult to transport, SS tankers etc... I know there are condensation and freezing/gelling issues on the aviation fuel side which is why it's not used but you kind of have to put that into perspective with auto use.
I'm not sure how it would affect our older cars gas tanks and gaskets thoughErmm? That might be something to think about. I'll have to look into that myself. As far as fuel lines it's a pretty good excuse to get SS and new synthetic soft hoses Wink.   



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Posted: 1/2/08 12:35pm Message 3 of 19
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I don't know if this is true, but I've heard several people say that it's bad for your carb mainly.......something about the gaskets won't last with the Ethanol.
 
Has anyone one hear heard this?Confused



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Posted: 1/2/08 12:49pm Message 4 of 19
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[QUOTE=greypoupon69]I don't know if this is true, but I've heard several people say that it's bad for your carb mainly.......something about the gaskets won't last with the Ethanol.
 
Has anyone one hear heard this?Confused
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Yeah, that's what the service guy told me when I brought a less than a year old lawnmower in for warranty work. Blamed the carb problem on the gas I was using, the only gas available in my area. That was 8 years ago. It still runs good after the "repair" that they made me pay for.



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Posted: 1/2/08 1:11pm Message 5 of 19
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I had a similar problem on my mower. The gaskets were eaten away. The lawn repair guy said same thing, the gas eats it away. Changed the gasket but he said it would probably happen again.



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[QUOTE=indy99]Changed the gasket but he said it would probably happen again.[/QUOTE]
That's what the guy told me too, but no problems since. Better gaskets?



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Posted: 1/2/08 1:30pm Message 7 of 19
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[QUOTE=mkapp7879][QUOTE=indy99]Changed the gasket but he said it would probably happen again.[/QUOTE]
That's what the guy told me too, but no problems since. Better gaskets?
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Could be, but it won't hurt to watch ALL gaskets on our vettes....just in case. Wink  Also, from what I've heard, the C5 won't be a problem because it doesn't have a carb on it.



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Posted: 1/2/08 3:27pm Message 8 of 19
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I heard once ( I think here at C3VR ) that the Edelbrock Carbs were not doing as well as others with the Ethanol.

Anybody???



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Posted: 1/2/08 11:03pm Message 10 of 19
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[QUOTE=79rebuild]I'm not sure how it would affect our older cars gas tanks and gaskets though? That might be something to think about.[/QUOTE]
 
That's a very good point.  Ethanol hasn't really gotten any kinder to elastomers and metal fuel parts; it's just that the newer components are made to tolerate it better.



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