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Fuel Pump

Posted: 1/5/10 8:43am Message 11 of 21
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Vette(s): 1970 T-Top350/350hp numbers matching 4 speed. It's a mess and 1970 Convertible 4 speed.
Yes my carb needs a rebuild but thats not the problem. There is no fuel going threw the line that connects to the crab.


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Fuel Pump

Posted: 1/5/10 9:22am Message 12 of 21
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I would wrap a rag around an air hose to make sort of a seal to the fuel filler, and blow into the tank.  If you see fuel leaking somewhere, that is the problem.  If you hear air, but do not move fuel, find the leak.  There is an old troubleshooting rule that says to recheck whatever you changed most recently.  Maybe your sender/pickup has sprung a leak.  There are two vastly different quality level units on the market.

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Posted: 1/5/10 10:23am Message 13 of 21
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Vette(s): 1978,two tone,Metalic Rootbeer & gold 1975 L48 4 speed
Dave and I got together on Sunday to check this out and I have to say, it's the strangest thing I have ever seen. He put 5 gals. fuel in the tank but no fuel gets to the carb, and with all the hoses intact, we changed out the pump. Still not picking up fuel, we disconnected the fuel line from the pump and blew compressed air back up the fuel line to the tank to ensure that the pickup end of the fuel line was indeed immersed in fuel. We heard air coming out but no bubbling sound Confused. Now, we used a dip stick into the tank to guarantee we still had fuel and there was at least 6 inches deep, so you have to wonder, could it be possible for the bladder to deform in such a way as to dam up more than 5 gals. of fuel away from the pickup tube. Dave just pulled the tank and replaced the fuel pickup assembly last month. We're now looking at replacing the fuel tank because there seems no other recourse. What do ya think guys? 


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Posted: 1/5/10 11:35am Message 14 of 21
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There was no mention of there being any bladder distortion when the sender was changed, so I didn't think that would be an issue. It could very well be the problem....put some more fuel in it and see....


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Posted: 1/8/10 5:49pm Message 15 of 21
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Vette(s): 1970 T-Top350/350hp numbers matching 4 speed. It's a mess and 1970 Convertible 4 speed.

Ok hookup a fuel can to the pump and it started working. So I reconnected the lines and it ran for 1 min then stop. It must be the tank or the rubber fuel hoses the tank.  I guess I will redrop the tank and take a closer look at everything  and hope I fine something?




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Posted: 1/10/10 10:50am Message 16 of 21
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Vette(s): 1970 T-Top350/350hp numbers matching 4 speed. It's a mess and 1970 Convertible 4 speed.
Questions? Drop the fuel tank and did not see anything unusual in the tank. Put a fuel can up the fuel line and the car started. So the fuel pump and the fuel line leading up to tank are good. The fuel sender is new. Now what? Is there a test for the fuel sender? The only thing that gives me pause is the bend on strainer tube on the sender.


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Posted: 1/10/10 2:11pm Message 17 of 21
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Can you blow thru the sender and verify it is open/clean?


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Posted: 1/10/10 8:42pm Message 18 of 21
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Vette(s): 1970 T-Top350/350hp numbers matching 4 speed. It's a mess and 1970 Convertible 4 speed.

Yes I can blow in the tube and it is not clogged. Each time that I drop the fuel tank I took out about 10 gallons of gas. Could the angle of the stainer tube have anything to do with it? I am about to give the car to the vette mechanic to let him figure it outCensored




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Posted: 1/10/10 9:32pm Message 19 of 21
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i may be wrong but there should be a rubber hose that goes from the tank to the metal fuel line that runs to the front of the car. is it possible that the rubber hose had come apart inside and on suction has a flap that blocks the flow. blowing into the tank wouldn't show this. maybe try disconnecting that hose from the tank a blow through it that way. just an idea



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Posted: 1/12/10 7:23pm Message 20 of 21
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Vette(s): 1970 T-Top350/350hp numbers matching 4 speed. It's a mess and 1970 Convertible 4 speed.
Yessss, I think I have the problem with the fuel. I thought the sender unit pick up tube look wrong. Talk with Aceinthehole he suggested that I take a wire bend it the same as the fuel sender to see how it looks in the tank. Well the sender pickup tube bend at a 285 degree angle which put the strainer end sticking up out of the fuel.  Which would explain why each time I drop the tank I got 10 gallons of fuel out. When the tank was half fuel the sender tube was sticking up past the half point. Lets see what happens when I put the tank back in.


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