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Gas smell

Posted: 11/16/05 2:05pm Message 1 of 7
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Yet another post about it....
I read most of the previous post on the subject, but I still have questions...
 
I park the car in an appartment complex where theres a room on top of the garage.  The neighbor complained of the gas smell!  Personally, I had other priorities on the car, but since I want to keep the garage, you gotta do whatcha gotta do! 
I will have to park the car outside until I fix the problem.
 
It always had a very strong gas smell in the garage; not necessarely with a full tank. My gas cap is only 1 year old.  It's hard to tell if there's smell in the car when I drive it, cause I always do with the top off.  There is a little bit of exhaust smell, but no noticeable gas smell when I drive it.
 
My 2 questions are :
-if I have a charcoal cannister, I don't think it has ever been replaced.  Should I do that as prevention ?  The whole cannister of just the filter ?
-if the smell is already strong throughout the garage, how can you smell the difference after you "fixed" something ?  You have to air out the garage and wait until the next day to see if it's better ?
 



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Gas smell

Posted: 11/16/05 3:05pm Message 2 of 7
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I'd certainly recommend airing out the garage, the vapor seems like it wants to stick around for some time.

One issue I had in the past with my tri-power set up was if the engine got just a little hot (typical of a b ig block) the gas tended to "perk" out of the bowls. Yes the gas smell, but cold starts were difficult because the carbs were empty.




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Posted: 11/16/05 7:57pm Message 3 of 7
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I would look for a vapor leak in the cannister purge system.  Granted, this is difficult to find.  There is special equipment for helping.  But if you put GENTLE (less than 2 psi) air pressure in the tank, you can use soap bubbles to find a leak.  There are other possibilites.


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Posted: 11/16/05 10:07pm Message 4 of 7
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A "very strong gas smell" would indicate a raw fuel leak, to me. Fuel lines, fuel pump, and fuel tanks can all leak, but not leave a "poodle" on the floor.
My '74 had a leaky tank(rusted out ), with no fuel on the floor, but a serious smell in the garage. It was running onto the spare tire cover, spreading out, and then evaporating. Only took a year to find it!

Check all the lines/hoses for cracks, and don't ferget the vapor separator, on the driver's side, toward the top of the tank.
The vapor/charcoal cannister is on the driver side, front fender area, under the brake master cyl.


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Posted: 11/17/05 7:51am Message 5 of 7
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Thanks for the input.  I will start working on it tonight.
 
David, when you say hard start; how difficult exactly ?
 
On mine, I pump the gas 3 times, start the car (crank for about 7 seconds), it starts and dies after about 3-4 seconds.  Do the same thing (crank time reduced to about 4 seconds) and then I'm fine.
 
Then I have to let it idle for a good 2 minutes before I do anything.  If I were to simply reverse out of the garage before 2 minutes of idle, it would die as soon as I put it on reverse and let go of the brake.
 
Is that considered difficult or yours was worst ?



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Posted: 11/17/05 3:13pm Message 6 of 7
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Yours is about the same as mine was, a little bit of a pain, but not terrible. Keep in mind that with a big block, you have a lot more mass to warm up. Today's cars are meant to crank and go for efficiency. On older cars it was actually standard procedure to let it warm up before driving. I can remember mom's old 65 Impala even had a light on the dash that told you when it was warmed up.

It does sound like yours is leaking down though if it dies right after the initial crank.

On mine now, it does want to start a lot easier, but still needs to warm up before it behaves. One trick my engine guy told me was to pump the gas a couple of times before even turning the key, wait a couple of seconds, then crank. It did seem to start a little quicker.

You still want to check ken's and adam's recommendations too, fuel vapor in an enclosed space is a bad combination. We like you here!

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Posted: 11/17/05 3:16pm Message 7 of 7
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Also, look at the thread "hard start cold" Ken and Sarge make some good suggestions and observations.


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